Yes it is what we have been treating as C. fontanum (var. triviale), it is our choice whether we want to follow POWO and call it C. glomeratum or follow WFO and call it Cerastium fontanum subsp. vulgare. It is high time we decide and put boldly on our website which Database we are following. We can't tell the World that we are following different databases for different plants, which one for this particular taxon?
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:13:06 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > > > -- > With regards, > J. M. Garg > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist) <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, 13 Jun, 2021, 8:16 pm > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:387976] Id request for this species of > Arenaria . > To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > > > Let me confirm it sir > > On Sun, 13 Jun, 2021, 5:59 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On further consideration, it appears close to* Cerastium holosteoides* >> as per POWO >> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:152312-1> >> (syn: *Cerastium fontanum* subsp. *vulgare* (Hartman) Greuter & Burdet >> of Flora of China >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242000274>) >> >> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 16:52, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Taxonomy of *Cerastium fontanum* looks quite complex. >>> Also no habit and lower portion image, makes the task further difficult. >>> Cerastium fontanum does not have distribution in our area as per POWO >>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:152255-1> >>> >>> and CoL and also looks different as per GBIF >>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3085458> specimens. >>> Two subspecies can be expected as per FoP >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242311891> >>> and CoN >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=106150> >>> *Cerastium fontanum* subsp. *triviale* (Link) Jalas (syn. of *Cerastium >>> glomeratum* <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium-glomeratum/> as >>> per POWO >>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:152274-1>) >>> >>> looks different as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/3085440> >>> specimens. >>> *Cerastium fontanum* subsp. *grandiflorum* H. Hara appears somewhat >>> close as per POWO >>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:875735-1>, >>> >>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/8496662> specimens- one >>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F669837.jpg>, >>> >>> two >>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441383504197bEIC0hHNKXNvKNxn>, >>> >>> three >>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441383491530LNFCqEo7g6Rd0vjl>, >>> >>> but has only distribution in Nepal as per CoN >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242000275> >>> and POWO >>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:875735-1> >>> >>> and CoL >>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/f8a907798601bf82f4a5497300eb51e0/synonym/a1bc91bb3ab53d89e8d68dc30839f99c>. >>> >>> But it appears close to your area as per distribution in POWO. >>> But I am still not sure. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 at 13:20, Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist) < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes it resembles with C. fontanum... >>>> >>>> On Sun, 6 Jun, 2021, 12:54 pm Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Surely Cerastium, bifid petals and 5 styles, more pictures would help >>>>> but lax flowers and petals shorter than sepals suggest C. fontanum >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 5:36:47 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Also could not find a match with any species as per Flora of Pakistan >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=106150>. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 17:23, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does not match with either of the three as per comparative images at >>>>>>> Cerastium <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 15:35, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, Shakir ji >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 3:17 pm Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist), < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have 3 sp. Of Cerastium here. >>>>>>>>> C.davuricum. >>>>>>>>> C.cerastoides. >>>>>>>>> C.fontanum. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 2:49 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, It is not Arenaria. >>>>>>>>>> I am asking about Cerastium. >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 2:04 pm Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist), >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We have areneria serpylifolia and A.kashmirica >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 1:56 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I need list of species reported in your area or in J >>>>>>>>>>>> and K. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist) <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May, 2021, 1:19 pm >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:386308] Id request for this species >>>>>>>>>>>> of Arenaria . >>>>>>>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Habit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 11:55 am J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Shakir ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pl. post a habit image. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To me styles appear to be 5. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not Arenaria >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/07/arenaria/>, as it has 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> styles. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To me it appears to be Cerastium >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium/>, which has >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 or 5 styles. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked in comparative images at Cerastium >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium/> and species >>>>>>>>>>>>> listed in Flora of Pakistan >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=106150> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with keys and Checklist of Nepal >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=106150>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but could not find a match. >>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the species listed in your area? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 22:48, Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer >>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxonomist) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please have look on these small incision on petals. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location pampore jammu and kashmir >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquEibJ4ZhabNJZfiiP6PCMZv4hQKi98aS00xVOYYRN8ZMg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquEibJ4ZhabNJZfiiP6PCMZv4hQKi98aS00xVOYYRN8ZMg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/98fab531-fa7a-44ca-bcc5-f23b32fa9899n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/98fab531-fa7a-44ca-bcc5-f23b32fa9899n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquGYa4oyVfnFxETMZ0Ah7Kw4BgAm3OxFNKYXhA5H%2BRqkaA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquGYa4oyVfnFxETMZ0Ah7Kw4BgAm3OxFNKYXhA5H%2BRqkaA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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