I don't think there is mix-up, first two images are focussed head and third showing cluster of heads. C. wallichii is very with heads mostly smaller than 3.8 cm, and inner involucre bracts have distinct dilated tips Please see my upload from Kashmir Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid heads- Cirsium wallichii from Kashmir-GS34 (google.com) <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/GWz1njtOkr0> All three images according to me are C. verutum
On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:39:09 PM UTC+5:30 Dinesh Valke wrote: > Thanks very much Garg ji for the keen eye.Indeed they are of different > plants. > So the 3rd photo is of *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng. and first two > photos belong to possibly *Cirsium wallichii* DC. > Do we wait for validations for the above suggestions ? > Regards. > Dinesh > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 2:00 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, Dinesh ji. >> There is a mix up in these images. >> Only third image is of *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng. >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/cirsium/cirsium-verutum> >> here. >> -- >> With regards, >> J. M. Garg >> >> On Wed, 22 Dec, 2021, 1:02 pm Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Garg ji. >>> Another post of mine >>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/zK3oej1R_Jg/m/R1SNYqzbCwAJ> >>> using one of the photos from this post has been suggested the possibility >>> of *Cirsium wallichii* DC. >>> Will wait for validating of either *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng. OR >>> *Cirsium >>> wallichii* DC. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Wednesday, 22 December 2021 at 12:48:50 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>> >>>> I think *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng. >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/cirsium/cirsium-verutum> >>>> as >>>> per images and keys herein. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 at 23:56 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:156457] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid >>>> heads) :: Cirsium falconeri at Auli :: 31 JUL 12 :: DV14 >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) >>>> aster, daisy, or sunflower family >>>> *Cirsium falconeri* (Hook.f.) Petr. >>>> *SIR-see-um* -- Greek *kirsion* (kind of thistle) ... Dave's Botanary >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DCirsium&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeBTMlqamq7oqAf2KSX5lQRR8o14A> >>>> *fal-KON-er-ee* -- named for Hugh Falconer, Scottish doctor, geologist >>>> and botanist in India ... Dave's Botanary >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dfalconeri&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdyoAi3cvIG0JBBuokZcuXnXBqWmg> >>>> >>>> >>>> *commonly known as*: Falconer's thistle • *Nepali*: गिद्ध प्वांखे >>>> giddh pwankhe >>>> >>>> *Native to*: Himalaya (Kashmir to Bhutan), Myanmar, s Tibet >>>> >>>> *References*: Flowers of India >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FFalconer%2527s%2520Thistle.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzezCRS3vMKo1cYsr9dYxDYODewp7g> >>>> >>>> • Annotated Checklist of the Flowering Plants of Nepal >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D110%26taxon_id%3D242421368&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf7n8FcEwU7kl62jHAkq96kGyFG1A> >>>> >>>> at Auli on 31 JUL 12 >>>> >>>> [image: Cirsium falconeri] >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7781875928%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfTB4QzRGnjQR9wIESzL7ZKrj53IA> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Cirsium falconeri] >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7781889326%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzds5tGPs_zR7S1ucp5Q3b6-sUBTMQ> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Cirsium falconeri] >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7760478252%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEze9ekfMehOcB6um6Yij7E6CZb9mOw> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/bacdb92a-0065-4cc4-80d6-4f36e56d0b3cn%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/bacdb92a-0065-4cc4-80d6-4f36e56d0b3cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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