I agreed to mix up because the first two pictures and the last one are of different dates, thus different plants. Though while posting I uploaded them together thinking they belong to the same species. Was not aware there are close species. Regards. Dinesh.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 5:41 PM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think there is mix-up, first two images are focussed head and > third showing cluster of heads. > C. wallichii is very with heads mostly smaller than 3.8 cm, and inner > involucre bracts have distinct dilated tips Please see my upload from > Kashmir > Asteraceae Fortnight Part 2-Discoid heads- Cirsium wallichii from > Kashmir-GS34 (google.com) > <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/GWz1njtOkr0> > All three images according to me are C. verutum > > On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:39:09 PM UTC+5:30 Dinesh Valke wrote: > >> Thanks very much Garg ji for the keen eye.Indeed they are of different >> plants. >> So the 3rd photo is of *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng. and first two >> photos belong to possibly *Cirsium wallichii* DC. >> Do we wait for validations for the above suggestions ? >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 2:00 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, Dinesh ji. >>> There is a mix up in these images. >>> Only third image is of *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng. >>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/cirsium/cirsium-verutum> >>> here. >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J. M. Garg >>> >>> On Wed, 22 Dec, 2021, 1:02 pm Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Garg ji. >>>> Another post of mine >>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/zK3oej1R_Jg/m/R1SNYqzbCwAJ> >>>> using one of the photos from this post has been suggested the possibility >>>> of *Cirsium wallichii* DC. >>>> Will wait for validating of either *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng. >>>> OR *Cirsium wallichii* DC. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 22 December 2021 at 12:48:50 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think *Cirsium verutum* (D.Don) Spreng. >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/cirsium/cirsium-verutum> >>>>> as >>>>> per images and keys herein. >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 at 23:56 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:156457] Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid >>>>> heads) :: Cirsium falconeri at Auli :: 31 JUL 12 :: DV14 >>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) >>>>> aster, daisy, or sunflower family >>>>> *Cirsium falconeri* (Hook.f.) Petr. >>>>> *SIR-see-um* -- Greek *kirsion* (kind of thistle) ... Dave's Botanary >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DCirsium&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeBTMlqamq7oqAf2KSX5lQRR8o14A> >>>>> *fal-KON-er-ee* -- named for Hugh Falconer, Scottish doctor, >>>>> geologist and botanist in India ... Dave's Botanary >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dfalconeri&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdyoAi3cvIG0JBBuokZcuXnXBqWmg> >>>>> >>>>> *commonly known as*: Falconer's thistle • *Nepali*: गिद्ध प्वांखे >>>>> giddh pwankhe >>>>> >>>>> *Native to*: Himalaya (Kashmir to Bhutan), Myanmar, s Tibet >>>>> >>>>> *References*: Flowers of India >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FFalconer%2527s%2520Thistle.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzezCRS3vMKo1cYsr9dYxDYODewp7g> >>>>> • Annotated Checklist of the Flowering Plants of Nepal >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D110%26taxon_id%3D242421368&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf7n8FcEwU7kl62jHAkq96kGyFG1A> >>>>> at Auli on 31 JUL 12 >>>>> >>>>> [image: Cirsium falconeri] >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7781875928%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfTB4QzRGnjQR9wIESzL7ZKrj53IA> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Cirsium falconeri] >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7781889326%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzds5tGPs_zR7S1ucp5Q3b6-sUBTMQ> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Cirsium falconeri] >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7760478252%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEze9ekfMehOcB6um6Yij7E6CZb9mOw> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/bacdb92a-0065-4cc4-80d6-4f36e56d0b3cn%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/bacdb92a-0065-4cc4-80d6-4f36e56d0b3cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/W6SXWnIRhxg/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/940b589a-8b58-45d8-88d2-b76089e2b2dbn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/940b589a-8b58-45d8-88d2-b76089e2b2dbn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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