But irregular stems are still making me doubtful.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 13:23, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Maybe C.wallichii (extremely variable species) only as per discussions
> above and as per discussions at Confusion between Circium argyracanthum
> and C. verutum
> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/biO4-3IHxZ4/m/K27YzYbpDwAJ> and
> GBIF
> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=3112707>
> specimens- one
> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1444172072043yX7vCvFm28wOahgU>
> and two
> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1444172156861AhCdsfuCPmnF2iAR>
> .
>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 at 22:11, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Of all the species of Carduus listed in India
>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/13/carduus/>, none is reported from
>> South India.
>> Only *Carduus tenuiflorus* is mentioned to have been introduced in India
>> as per CoL
>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/6bd638cfaa6b18e10b89fdc7125c2bce>,
>> but which states is not clear.
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 at 21:54, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think only *Cirsium wallichii* DC.
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/cirsium/cirsium-wallichii>
>>>  is
>>> reported from tamil Nadu as per details at Cirsium
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/01/23/cirsium/> and Carduus
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/13/carduus/>
>>> It appears close.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 18:13, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Forwarding for ID
>>>> Distributed as Carduus species- Nigiri hills area of Tamilnadu
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/carduus/carduus-species/nigiri-hills-area-of-tamilnadu>
>>>> Group discussion at
>>>> Cirsium wallichii DC. SN April 04 (google.com)
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/X5YvXy4JEO0>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 18, 2014 at 9:08:57 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: 18 April 2014 21:05
>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:185394] Cirsium wallichii DC. SN April 04
>>>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I too agree it is *Carduus sp*, but species identity needs to be
>>>>> confirmed.  If anybody have clarity in this taxon kindly help.
>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>> Santhan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>> Cirsium wallichii I don't think has winged stem. To me it looks like
>>>>>> Carduus sp.
>>>>>> Achenes pappus would solve the confusion.
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Cirsium$
>>>>>> 20wallichii$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/XG5cj2XRDo0/U1nY4DKxI64J
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Cirsium$
>>>>>> 20wallichii$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/0HsAwTFVpJE/6l12Zoqx-KEJ
>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: 3 April 2014 19:24
>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:185394] Cirsium wallichii DC. SN April 04
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Cirsium wallichii DC, Fam Asteraceae wild herb from Nigiri hills
>>>>>> area of Tamilnadu, altitude is around 2000m*
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