Winged stem we have in C. vulgare, but heads don't match. On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:48:06 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
> But irregular stems are still making me doubtful. > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 13:23, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Maybe C.wallichii (extremely variable species) only as per discussions >> above and as per discussions at Confusion between Circium argyracanthum >> and C. verutum >> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/biO4-3IHxZ4/m/K27YzYbpDwAJ> and >> GBIF >> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=3112707> >> specimens- one >> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1444172072043yX7vCvFm28wOahgU> >> >> and two >> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1444172156861AhCdsfuCPmnF2iAR> >> . >> >> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 at 22:11, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Of all the species of Carduus listed in India >>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/13/carduus/>, none is reported from >>> South India. >>> Only *Carduus tenuiflorus* is mentioned to have been introduced in >>> India as per CoL >>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/6bd638cfaa6b18e10b89fdc7125c2bce>, >>> >>> but which states is not clear. >>> >>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 at 21:54, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think only *Cirsium wallichii* DC. >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/cirsium/cirsium-wallichii> >>>> is >>>> reported from tamil Nadu as per details at Cirsium >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/01/23/cirsium/> and Carduus >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/13/carduus/> >>>> It appears close. >>>> >>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 18:13, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Forwarding for ID >>>>> Distributed as Carduus species- Nigiri hills area of Tamilnadu >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/carduus/carduus-species/nigiri-hills-area-of-tamilnadu> >>>>> Group discussion at >>>>> Cirsium wallichii DC. SN April 04 (google.com) >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/X5YvXy4JEO0> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, April 18, 2014 at 9:08:57 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: 18 April 2014 21:05 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:185394] Cirsium wallichii DC. SN April 04 >>>>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I too agree it is *Carduus sp*, but species identity needs to be >>>>>> confirmed. If anybody have clarity in this taxon kindly help. >>>>>> Thanks & Regards >>>>>> Santhan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:56 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>> Cirsium wallichii I don't think has winged stem. To me it looks like >>>>>>> Carduus sp. >>>>>>> Achenes pappus would solve the confusion. >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Cirsium$ >>>>>>> 20wallichii$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/XG5cj2XRDo0/U1nY4DKxI64J >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Cirsium$ >>>>>>> 20wallichii$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/0HsAwTFVpJE/6l12Zoqx-KEJ >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 3 April 2014 19:24 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:185394] Cirsium wallichii DC. 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