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With regards,
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From: M Swamy <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan, 2022, 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:409720] Fwd: Swamy/New series/ID/49 - climber
for ID.
To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>


Garg sir,
Thanks a lot for forwarding to  experts and  settling the  nomen confusion
and  the  final ID.
Regards,
Dr.M.Swamy

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 6:43 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Tapas ji, for the clarification.
>
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> With regards,
> J. M. Garg
>
> On Sat, 8 Jan, 2022, 3:05 am Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> *Acacia intsia *or *Senegalia intsia *is a *nomen confusum. *Dr. Bruce
>> Maslin, in a personal communication finally also agreed to my arguments. I
>> take this plant as *Senegalia caesia.*
>> Thank you.
>> Tapas.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 9:46 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> From the earlier books both appear to be same as per books:
>>> Forest Plants of Eastern India - Page 225
>>> <https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Forest_Plants_of_Eastern_India/RQ-tItJSi60C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=acacia+intsia+%2B+acacia+caesia&pg=PA225&printsec=frontcover>
>>>
>>> Mansfeld's Encyclopedia of Agricultural and Horticultural ... - Page 600
>>> <https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Mansfeld_s_Encyclopedia_of_Agricultural/10IMFSavIMsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=acacia+intsia+%2B+acacia+caesia&pg=PA600&printsec=frontcover>
>>>
>>> Indian Medicinal Plants: A Compendium of 500 Species
>>> <https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Indian_Medicinal_Plants/Rk_vt0KqzMEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=acacia+intsia+%2B+acacia+caesia&pg=PA17&printsec=frontcover>
>>>
>>> It appears there was some taxonomic confusion somewhere.
>>> But without keys and clear cut differences, it may be difficult to reach
>>> some conclusions.
>>> So until then let us keep it at Senegalia caesia
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2013/09/19/acacia-caesia/>, like other
>>> observations.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 19:52, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 12:50, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Mahadeswara ji,
>>>>> Did you check with the descriptions?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 17:53, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>> From: M Swamy <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 17:16
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:409720] Fwd: Swamy/New series/ID/49 -
>>>>>> climber for ID.
>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many many thanks Garg ji for your clarification.  You have  made
>>>>>> extra efforts  to go through in detail.  Great !  .
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Dr.M.Swamy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 3:35 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, there seems to be some confusion. But both seem to be different
>>>>>>> as per
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Senegalia intsia* (L.) Maslin, Seigler & Ebinger:
>>>>>>> POWO
>>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77132510-1>,
>>>>>>> ILDIS <http://www.legumes-online.net/ildis/aweb/td114/td_24005.htm>,
>>>>>>> FoPI
>>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=5944&cat=7>,
>>>>>>> CoL
>>>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/0a17bcc6cea3d5bab103669a25e117a2/synonym/f56cb9f6b9b76077886ff924391b5eb7>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Senegalia caesia* (L.) Maslin, Seigler & Ebinger
>>>>>>> POWO
>>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77132504-1>
>>>>>>> , ILDIS
>>>>>>> <http://www.legumes-online.net/ildis/aweb/td079/td_16743.htm>, FoPI
>>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=5923&cat=7>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, I could not find the keys between the two. Pl. check with
>>>>>>> descriptions give in FoPI at links above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 17:40, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am reforwarding  with the proper ID number.  My previous posting
>>>>>>>> on this plant carried a same number given to another plant (*Dombeya
>>>>>>>> spectabilis ).  *That is why I am reforwarding with the proper ID
>>>>>>>> reference number.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>>>> I am forwarding  h/w the  photos received from  Chennai  for ID.
>>>>>>>> This is a  liana,   in a farm, entangling trees in a  vicious thorny 
>>>>>>>> hold.
>>>>>>>> Picture of flowers not available.  Pods are  very thin and flat.
>>>>>>>> There is confusion  as to whether it is *Senegalia* *caesia* (L.)
>>>>>>>> Maslin et al., Blumea 58:40. 2013 (syn: (≡) *Acacia caesia*
>>>>>>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?796> (L.)
>>>>>>>> Willd  as in efloraofindia or *Senegalia intsia *(L.) Maslin  syn.
>>>>>>>> *Acasia caesia*.   Or both the names are one and the same.  If so
>>>>>>>> what is the correct citation.  Please clarify.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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