Thanks a lot, Viplav ji, for further valuable inputs. -- With regards, J. M. Garg
On Sat, 15 Jan, 2022, 12:38 pm [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > It would please you to know that the "whitish" corolla tube does find a > mention in the description of *B. prattensis* in the "Revision of the > Genus Barleria (Acanthaceae) in India > <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265981818_Revision_of_the_Genus_Barleria_Acanthaceae_in_India>" > by Shankar M. Shendage and S. R. Yadav, published in 2010. I've attached > the relevant excerpts of the descriptions of *B. **prattensis* and *B. > montana* from this paper. > > I am well acquainted with Santapau's work. These are his precise words > regarding *B. montana*: "The flowers are *said to be* bright blue". > Obviously, he was not writing from first-hand experience on this occasion. > > All the authors (past and present) agree that the seeds are the key > distinguishing factor between these two species. > > On the distribution of *B. montana*, Santapau wrote that "this plant does > not occur in Bombay *State*, or at least I have failed to find a single > authentic specimen". According to the paper on *Barleria* cited above, it > does occur in Maharashtra but to a far lesser extent than *B. prattensis*. > > On close observation of the first two images by Alka ji, the corolla tube > is indeed whitish. In fact, the white corolla tube is clearly visible in > the side view of the topmost flower in the photograph labelled > "Barleria_Kothaligad3.JPEG". If we are to rely on this character in the > absence of seeds, it would be fair to consider this plant as *B. > prattensis*. > > Best wishes, Viplav > > On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:03, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Radha ji, for the details. >> >> Earlier taxonomists depended more on herbarium specimens. >> I have doubts about: 'The flowers of *B. montana* are said to be bright >> blue' >> >> Myself observing these two in our database, came to a clear cut >> conclusion (although I have not seen mentioned anywhere): >> Corolla tube is white inside in *Barleria prattensis* >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/barleria/barleria-prattensis> >> and not so in *Barleria montana* >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/barleria/barleria-montana> >> Pl. check, you will be surprised to find out. >> >> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 09:55, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> In Santapau's work of 1951, The Acanthaceae of Bombay, there are >>> detailed descriptions of both the species. The main difference is in the >>> seeds, larger and hairy in *B. montana,* and smaller and glabrous in *B. >>> prattensis.* He also states that *B. montana* is not found in the >>> Bombay presidency. >>> The colour of the corolla in *B. prattensis* varies from rosy pink to >>> purple with the colour fading in older flowers. The flowers of *B. >>> montana* are said to be bright blue. >>> >>> regards >>> Radha >>> >>> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:01:19 AM UTC-7 JM Garg wrote: >>> >>>> Corolla tube is white inside in *Barleria prattensis* >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/barleria/barleria-prattensis> >>>> and not so in *Barleria montana* >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/barleria/barleria-montana> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 21:53, Alka Khare <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Radha ji for the ID. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Alka Khare >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 9:35:28 PM UTC+5:30 radha veach wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it is Barleria prattensis. I remember observing it at Peth >>>>>> fort. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Radha >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:57:28 PM UTC-7 Alka Khare wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello friends >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This was clicked at Peth Kothaligad hill fort near Karjat, MH in >>>>>>> September 2021. >>>>>>> Confused between Barleria montana and B. prattensis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Requested to please ID. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>> Alka Khare >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/0803d491-5a14-481c-8fba-e29400a9dc15n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/0803d491-5a14-481c-8fba-e29400a9dc15n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/1da81c0e-be49-48d1-bfda-45063e2cd14en%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/1da81c0e-be49-48d1-bfda-45063e2cd14en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBhnqHLav%3DYsE1XF6N35oUuJMdeS9xqUbjMZEp04j_ycw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBhnqHLav%3DYsE1XF6N35oUuJMdeS9xqUbjMZEp04j_ycw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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