Thanks so much Radha ji, Viplav ji and Garg ji for an interesting analysis.
Regards Alka Khare On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 12:53:42 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > Thanks a lot, Viplav ji, for further valuable inputs. > -- > With regards, > J. M. Garg > > On Sat, 15 Jan, 2022, 12:38 pm [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Dear Sir, >> >> It would please you to know that the "whitish" corolla tube does find a >> mention in the description of *B. prattensis* in the "Revision of the >> Genus Barleria (Acanthaceae) in India >> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/265981818_Revision_of_the_Genus_Barleria_Acanthaceae_in_India>" >> >> by Shankar M. Shendage and S. R. Yadav, published in 2010. I've attached >> the relevant excerpts of the descriptions of *B. **prattensis* and *B. >> montana* from this paper. >> >> I am well acquainted with Santapau's work. These are his precise words >> regarding *B. montana*: "The flowers are *said to be* bright blue". >> Obviously, he was not writing from first-hand experience on this occasion. >> >> All the authors (past and present) agree that the seeds are the key >> distinguishing factor between these two species. >> >> On the distribution of *B. montana*, Santapau wrote that "this plant >> does not occur in Bombay *State*, or at least I have failed to find a >> single authentic specimen". According to the paper on *Barleria* cited >> above, it does occur in Maharashtra but to a far lesser extent than *B. >> prattensis*. >> >> On close observation of the first two images by Alka ji, the corolla tube >> is indeed whitish. In fact, the white corolla tube is clearly visible in >> the side view of the topmost flower in the photograph labelled >> "Barleria_Kothaligad3.JPEG". If we are to rely on this character in the >> absence of seeds, it would be fair to consider this plant as *B. >> prattensis*. >> >> Best wishes, Viplav >> >> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:03, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Radha ji, for the details. >>> >>> Earlier taxonomists depended more on herbarium specimens. >>> I have doubts about: 'The flowers of *B. montana* are said to be bright >>> blue' >>> >>> Myself observing these two in our database, came to a clear cut >>> conclusion (although I have not seen mentioned anywhere): >>> Corolla tube is white inside in *Barleria prattensis* >>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/barleria/barleria-prattensis> >>> and not so in *Barleria montana* >>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/barleria/barleria-montana> >>> Pl. check, you will be surprised to find out. >>> >>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 09:55, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> In Santapau's work of 1951, The Acanthaceae of Bombay, there are >>>> detailed descriptions of both the species. The main difference is in the >>>> seeds, larger and hairy in *B. montana,* and smaller and glabrous in *B. >>>> prattensis.* He also states that *B. montana* is not found in the >>>> Bombay presidency. >>>> The colour of the corolla in *B. prattensis* varies from rosy pink to >>>> purple with the colour fading in older flowers. The flowers of *B. >>>> montana* are said to be bright blue. >>>> >>>> regards >>>> Radha >>>> >>>> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:01:19 AM UTC-7 JM Garg wrote: >>>> >>>>> Corolla tube is white inside in *Barleria prattensis* >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/barleria/barleria-prattensis> >>>>> and not so in *Barleria montana* >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/barleria/barleria-montana> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 21:53, Alka Khare <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Radha ji for the ID. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Alka Khare >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 9:35:28 PM UTC+5:30 radha veach wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it is Barleria prattensis. I remember observing it at Peth >>>>>>> fort. >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Radha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:57:28 PM UTC-7 Alka Khare wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello friends >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This was clicked at Peth Kothaligad hill fort near Karjat, MH in >>>>>>>> September 2021. >>>>>>>> Confused between Barleria montana and B. prattensis. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Requested to please ID. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>>> Alka Khare >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/0803d491-5a14-481c-8fba-e29400a9dc15n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/0803d491-5a14-481c-8fba-e29400a9dc15n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/1da81c0e-be49-48d1-bfda-45063e2cd14en%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/1da81c0e-be49-48d1-bfda-45063e2cd14en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBhnqHLav%3DYsE1XF6N35oUuJMdeS9xqUbjMZEp04j_ycw%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBhnqHLav%3DYsE1XF6N35oUuJMdeS9xqUbjMZEp04j_ycw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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