Thanks, Tabish ji

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J. M. Garg

On Sun, 14 Aug, 2022, 11:02 pm Tabish, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Garg ji,
>   I also think the plants in the other two posts referred to by you are
> Mussaenda roxburghii.
>   Tabish
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> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 12:16 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think the main difference appears to be in Calyx lobes:
>> For *Mussaenda frondosa*, it is 'Calyx with hypanthium portion
>> ellipsoid, 3-4 mm, strigose to sericeous; lobes narrowly triangular to
>> narrowly ligulate, *7-12 mm,* hirsute, acute to acuminate' as per Flora
>> of China
>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=220008890>.
>> For M*ussaenda roxburghii*, it is 'Calyx lobes filiform, tapering from
>> base, *6-9mm x 1mm, *densely covered in long silky hairs' as per Flora
>> of Bhutan <https://biodiversity.bt/species/show/6298>.
>>
>> Let us see the detailed description to arrive at the right id:
>>
>>
>>  Flora of Bhutan <https://biodiversity.bt/species/show/6298>
>>
>>  Flora of China
>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=220008890>
>>
>>
>> *Mussaenda roxburghii* Hook.f.:
>>
>> *Much branched shrub 1-4.5m.* stems glabrous or pilose with spreading
>> hairs *leaves petiolate usually elliptic, rarely ovate or oblong,* *5-25
>> x 4-9cm,* acuminate at both ends, *subglabrous or thinly pilose above,
>> thinly to densely pilose below, veins adpressed pilose on both surface; 
>> *petioles
>> 2-15mm; *stipules broadly triangular, 6-10mm.* *Inflorescence a dense
>> terminal head, usually 3 branched from base, but differentiated, many
>> flowered. Calyx lobes filiform, tapering from base, 6-9mm x 1mm, densely
>> covered in long silky hairs.* *Corolla tube 2.4-2.8cm, densely covered
>> in long silky hairs. lobes narrowly ovate, 4-8 x 2-2.5mm, terminating in a
>> long fine hairpoint. Berry globose, 6-10mm, glabrous calyx persistent until
>> fruit is ripe.*
>>
>> *Mussaenda frondosa* Linnaeus:
>>
>> *Climbing shrubs; *branches terete to compressed, moderately to densely
>> pale red sericeous to hirsute becoming glabrescent, red-brown or brown,
>> rather densely lenticellate. Leaves opposite; petiole 4-10 mm, densely
>> sericeous; blade drying thinly papery or leathery, adaxially dark green to
>> brownish green, abaxially pale green to yellowed, *broadly elliptic,
>> elliptic-oblong, ovate, or oblanceolate, 8-15 × 3-8* cm, *both surfaces
>> sparsely strigillose on lamina and strigose to sericeous on principal
>> veins, *base acute, obtuse, or rounded, apex acute to caudate-acuminate;
>> secondary veins 7-10 pairs, tertiary venation visible and reticulate; 
>> *stipules
>> persistent, triangular, 5-10 mm, densely strigose to pilose, deeply
>> 2-lobed, lobes lanceolate to narrowly triangular, acute to acuminate.* 
>> *Inflorescences
>> congested-cymose* *becoming lax with lateral axes elongating markedly,
>> 4-8 × 8-20 cm with lateral axes to 8 cm, *sparsely to moderately
>> pubescent with 2 types of pubescence, mixed strigillose to appressed
>> puberulent and hirsute to villous, *pedunculate or sessile *and
>> 3-partite; peduncles 1-3 cm; *bracts triangular or elliptic, 4-10 mm,
>> usually 2- to multifid, acute to acuminate; *pedicels 1-6 mm. Flowers
>> pedicellate, biology not noted. Calyx with hypanthium portion ellipsoid,
>> 3-4 mm, strigose to sericeous; *lobes narrowly triangular to narrowly
>> ligulate, 7-12 mm, hirsute, acute to acuminate, *with 1 lobe of 1-4
>> flowers per inflorescence sometimes expanded into calycophyll, blade
>> elliptic-oblong to ovate, 6-8 × 2.5-5 cm, both surfaces glabrescent on
>> lamina and strigillose on principal veins, base acute to cuneate, stipe
>> 10-30 mm, apex acute or acuminate. *Corolla salverform, outside hirsute;
>> tube 22-25 mm; lobes ovate, 6-7 mm, acuminate. Berry ovoid or ellipsoid,
>> ca. 10 × 7 mm, strigose to glabrescent, *calyx limb deciduous. Fl.
>> Apr-May.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> After going through the descriptions, I feel it may be *Mussaenda
>> roxburghii* Hook.f. only.
>>
>> The following posts may also be of *Mussaenda roxburghii* Hook.f..:
>> Mussaenda sp. for ID
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/PyVRNEpVc3o>
>> Mussaenda frondosa?
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/3wHuOtgb-wA>
>> Mussaenda glabrata (Hook.f.) Hutch. ex Gamble from Assam KD 02 Jul’ 2017
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/RGEdgz4IpYY>
>> MS July, 2017/06 Mussaenda sp. for Id
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/cz3kw_lgEqk>
>> MS, June,2021/20 Mussaenda sp. for id.
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Djx0yAK3a2Y>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 at 09:51, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  To my eye, the sepals of Mussaenda frondosa
>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:756632-1>
>>> look  broader in comparison to my images, and also more hairiness of the
>>> plant. Also the buds of my plant look different from those of M. frondosa.
>>> The buds of my plant appear to agree with the M. roxburghii images on Flora
>>> of Bhutan site
>>>   https://biodiversity.bt/species/show/6298
>>>   https://biodiversity.bt/group/royal_manas_national_park/
>>> observation/show/5360
>>>   Tabish
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 12, 2022 at 10:40:59 PM UTC+5:30 Tabish wrote:
>>>
>>>> Found this plant growing by riverside in Pasighat, Arunachal Pradesh in
>>>> May end.
>>>> I think this is Mussaenda roxburghii. Looking for confirmation or
>>>> otherwise id suggestions.
>>>>   Best wishes
>>>>   Tabish
>>>>
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