Someone recently united P. narayanswamii under P. virgatus but kept P. gardnerianus distinct. Bouman et al. (2022) maintained all as distinct. I am fully confused here. P. virgatus is a Pacific species while P. simplex is Asian. Someone recently informed me that P. narayanswsmii is distinct from P. gardnerianus by habit, habitat and DNA data. My studies based on specimens and images indicate that narayanswamii and gardnerianus should be merged but considering the confusions, I will not go for any taxonomic changes. Let someone clarify these 3 species with field data combined with DNA studies. With regards, Tapas
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022, 11:39 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: > Syn. of *Phyllanthus virgatus *G.Forst. ? ? Looks different from images > at > http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=3940&cat=7 ! > Now , *Cathetus virgatus* (G.Forst.) R.W.Bouman ?? > > Please compare with *Phyllanthus macraei *Müll.Arg. . Now: *Cathetus > rheedei* (Wight) R.W.Bouman > > https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FMacrae%27s%2520Leaf-Flower.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FMacrae%2527s%2520Leaf-Flower.html&tbnid=y_CcsFWbZQlm0M&vet=12ahUKEwiMqv75s_P7AhVMhNgFHTQvB68QMygAegQIARBT..i&docid=ic-GNIA7lTEb8M&w=600&h=449&q=Phyllanthus%20macraei&client=safari&ved=2ahUKEwiMqv75s_P7AhVMhNgFHTQvB68QMygAegQIARBT > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 10:18 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Good discussions and analysis. >> -- >> With regards, >> J. M. Garg >> >> On Mon, 12 Dec, 2022, 8:36 am Ashutosh Sharma, < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> This must be *Phyllanthus narayanswamii* Gamble >>> >>> Under shrub upto 2 metre tall. Leaves alternative,sessile, elliptic >>> coriaceous with thickened recurved margins. Perianth lobes 6 with 6 small >>> glands in male flowers. Fruit capsule globose with verrucose glands. All >>> these characters are matching with *Phyllanthus narayanswamii *Gamble >>> >>> So our plant is *Phyllanthus narayanswamii* Gamble, which is already >>> reported from the Agasthyamala Biosphere Reserve where I have clicked this >>> plant. >>> Tapas sir I hope the identity is correct now! >>> >>> With best regards >>> Ashutosh Sharma >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 08:21 Ashutosh Sharma < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Tapas sir, >>>> >>>> Thanks for pointing the mistake in id. You are absolutely correct it >>>> can't be *Phyllanthus rangachariarii* owing to the characters you >>>> mentioned i.e. 6 perianth and glands in male flowers instead of 4 in >>>> *P. rangachariarii*). Additionally my plant is much smaller is height >>>> not taller than 2 feets while *P. rangachariarii* is a much bigger >>>> shrub upto 2 metre tall. >>>> >>>> I also checked type material images available on BSI virtual herbarium, >>>> confirming the same. >>>> >>>> https://ivh.bsi.gov.in/phanerogams/en?search_bar=Phyllanthus+rangachariarii&selection=Scientific_Name >>>> >>>> With best regards >>>> Ashutosh Sharma >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 05:00 Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Even closer to P. gardnerianus but leaves sessile and thickly >>>>> coriaceous. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2022, 23:17 Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ashutosh ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sorry for misguiding you! >>>>>> >>>>>> This is not at all P. rangachariarii. Just now I noticed that the >>>>>> male sepals are 6. >>>>>> The characters of the plant point to very close alliance to >>>>>> Phyllanthus clarkei in almost all characters. But I have some doubts >>>>>> because P. clarkei in not known from peninsular India so far and the >>>>>> leaves >>>>>> here are stiffly coriaceous. The glands in male flowers appear to be 6 >>>>>> instead of 3. >>>>>> So, please study your plant very carefully once again and compare >>>>>> with P. clarkei (now called Cathetus clarkei). >>>>>> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> Tapas >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2022, 15:47 Ashutosh Sharma, < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Tapas sir, yes definitely these are the first and only >>>>>>> photographic evidence of this rare endemic Phyllanthus species. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With best regards >>>>>>> Ashutosh Sharma >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 15:23 Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think this is the first field photographs of this rare endemic. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> Tapas >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2022, 13:58 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot, Ashutosh ji, for the wonderful addition. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>> From: Ashutosh Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 at 12:35 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:438048] Phyllanthus rangachariarii >>>>>>>>> Murugan, Kabeer & G.V.S.Murthy submission AS27 December 22 >>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here's a new addition to eFloraofIndia website. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Phyllanthus rangachariari*i Murugan, Kabeer & G.V.S.Murthy >>>>>>>>> Family - Phyllanthaceae >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This rare species is narrow endemic to Agasthyamala Biosphere >>>>>>>>> Reserve, Tamil Nadu >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Photographed in Kanyakumari district, Tamil Nadu >>>>>>>>> In November 2022 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With best regards >>>>>>>>> Ashutosh Sharma >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkfUKt28TAcaaX%3DCzaMzMYwZe6ugus_wLcj0DPvT71on6%2Brug%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkfUKt28TAcaaX%3DCzaMzMYwZe6ugus_wLcj0DPvT71on6%2Brug%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFB8fQyLY0vnj81GuNQdHM_JY2oW9e-8CyfOSbhb2kKLCw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFB8fQyLY0vnj81GuNQdHM_JY2oW9e-8CyfOSbhb2kKLCw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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