Thanks, Garg ji. Regards. Dinesh On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 5:06 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, Dinesh ji. > We have already kept it at > https://efloraofindia.com/2011/01/31/abutilon-hirtum/ > > On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 13:10, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Many thanks Surajit ji for suggesting the ID. >> Daniel McNair, has come up with same ID: *Abutilon hirtum* (Lam.) Sweet >> ... in my observation >> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/149800463> uploaded at >> iNaturalist. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 07:45:24 UTC+5:30 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> Vijay Sir seems to busy with something else. Dinesh Ji, if you count >>> number of styles and stigma (red coloured) int he flower of your first pic >>> you will see there are at least 23 clearly visible. So, your species is not >>> *A. >>> indicum* (L.) Sweet as per KEY given by Vijay Sir in this thread. In *A. >>> hirtum* (Lam.) Sweet each merricarp is acute tipped >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/bhHzjFXfdcc/QjDHwqXGkMYJ> >>> as per KEY provided by Vijay Sir in another thread. The picture in the >>> FloraKarnataka link >>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/field/Abutilon%20hirtum/Picture%20076.jpg> >>> you have provided clearly shows viscid hairs. The buds there exactly same >>> as in your second pic. Haines', Roxburgh's plant has flowers with darker >>> centre - ferruginous/crimson/purple (FoC, FloraKarnataka). >>> >>> This species is *Abutilon hirtum* (Lam.) Sweet, not any 2nd form of *A. >>> indicum* (L.) Sweet. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:16 AM, surajit koley <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree Vijay Sir, counting is controversial. At the same time your >>>> other points in earlier mail were also controversial - >>>> >>>> - The mericarps are acute (not rounded at tip) >>>> >>>> If we start from KEY 3 in FoC >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=100054#KEY-1-2> >>>> and proceed to KEY4 we will see mericarps in *A. hirtum* will have >>>> either acute or obscurely (to 2mm) awned apices. >>>> If we start from KEY8 of FoP >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=100054#KEY-1-8> >>>> we will see *A. hirtum* will have mericarps acute or with a small mucro >>>> If we read Haines in BoBO we will see - "head of carpels rounded, >>>> muticous or mucronate >>>> >>>> - the plant doesn't seem to have viscid hairs >>>> >>>> Haines recorded - "the whole plant covered with a tomentum much as in *A. >>>> indica*, but also with glandular pubescence and long soft hairs on the >>>> branches, peduncles, etc." >>>> Very little we can see branches and peduncles in the attached pictures >>>> in this thread. >>>> FoP and Roxburgh's account is "clammy pubescence" >>>> >>>> Dinesh Ji's flickr account of *A. indicum* features old photographs >>>> too. Here, in this thread there are only two photographs. It is impossible >>>> to count mericarps in the 2nd pic. In the first pic You are possibly >>>> correct about the number of mericarps in the dry fruit. But when we count >>>> number of carpels we cannot reject young fruit, in fact young fruit bears >>>> more validity, I think, in the sense that all carpels may not attain full >>>> maturity when a fruit is ripe. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> haha, counting is often controversial :) we need a third umpire now... >>>>> >>>>> I counted the dry fruit wherein the mericarps are dehisced/opened up >>>>> and have two halves each (seen as lobes from side view) and counting was >>>>> easier here. I also counted a green fruit from an another picture posted >>>>> by >>>>> Dinesh ji at flickr where the edges/tips of mericarps are clearly visible. >>>>> In both, the mericarps are less than 20. But, I can be wrong. If it is >>>>> more >>>>> than 20, then it can't be A. indicum which I suggested earlier. So, we >>>>> still need to understand the characters clearly and we also need an >>>>> unambiguous key for this genus covering larger number of species. >>>>> >>>>> Vijay >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D. >>>>> Research Scientist >>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>> University of Mississippi, MS, USA >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:07 PM, surajit koley <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good morning Dinesh Ji >>>>>> My count is about 25, not sure but certainly more than 20. >>>>>> So, let's wait for Vijayasankar Ji. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for the upload. I get to learn something about *Abutilon*, just >>>>>> as you have said the efforts have helped knowing about abutilons a bit >>>>>> better. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> About 26 or 28 Surajit ji. >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:25 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Vijay Sir. >>>>>>>> Dinesh Ji, can you please check the number of carpels, which is >>>>>>>> still green in one of your photographs? >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK Vijayasankar ji !!!! Thank you very much. >>>>>>>>> I think we worked hard :-) but the efforts have helped in knowing >>>>>>>>> about abutilons a bit better. >>>>>>>>> Will go with Abutilon indicum. >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dinesh ji, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The posted plant could be as simple as Abutilon indicum. The >>>>>>>>>> mericarps are acute (not rounded at tip), about 18 (20 or less) and >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> plant doesn't seem to have viscid hairs - all pointing to A. indicum. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vijay >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>> Research Scientist >>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>>>> University of Mississippi, MS, USA >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:18 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you again Dinesh Ji. >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yes Surajit ji ... colours in descriptions help in general >>>>>>>>>>>> identification. Variation in colours is quite possible. Thanks for >>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>> clarity. >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:14 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much Dinesh Ji, for everything and links. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to add that description and picture in >>>>>>>>>>>>> FloraKarnataka (or anywhere else) should not be taken as >>>>>>>>>>>>> exhaustive. Vijay >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sir has flower without "purple" base - >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/itKwnycckx8/sl-J3Mdmmv4J >>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks to Anurag Ji as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many many thanks Surajit ji for all your efforts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday night Anurag helped me with following links ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Abutilon hirtum*: herbarium >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/herb/Abutilon%20hirtum/P1010874.JPG> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | description >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20hirtum/245.pdf.jpg> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | picture >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/field/Abutilon%20hirtum/Picture%20076.jpg> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Abutilon pannosum*: herbarium >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/herb/Abutilon%20pannosum/P1010873.JPG> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> | description >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Abutilon%20pannosum/246.pdf.jpg> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With all that you discussed and pointed out, I am convinced >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the posted plant is not *A. pannosum*; it *must* be *A. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hirtum*. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks to Anurag too - especially for the herbarium of *A. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pannosum*. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:07 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning Dinesh Ji >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked myself the very question you have pointed out when I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was examining the KEW herb. My another query was can dried up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mericarps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a bit pointed tip? That is why I cannot rule out any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeatedly said that maybe Roxburgh's plant is not the type >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> species. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now please check an old thread which was identified and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placed under *Abutilon hirtum* (Lam.) Sweet in our database >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/TRSEpDxNHCA/6Q8xOMWuu88J, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the picture of the original post but pic no. Abutilon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicum is it I2 IMG_5261.jpg and series. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Anurag for your upload of possible *A. pannosum. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *(Perhaps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not *pannosum* - mericarps do not appear rounded at top, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the calyx is relatively very short). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes Surajit ji, had seen the KEW herbarium image. Many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for pointing to the link and for elaborating the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My naive query: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that herbarium contain a fruit that was fully matured >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and dried up naturally on the plant ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) the mericarps could assume different shape as they dry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up - thus would seem higher than the calyx >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) the calyx when drying tend to re-curve; would appear of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lesser dimension than that seen in a tender fruit - as can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first pic of the posted plant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So much said - the posted plant may be different; some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> species other than *indicum* AND *pannosum*. :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:38 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh Ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You must have already viewed the only herbarium of *A. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pannosum* in KEW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000659530> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. The fruit is not clear there. So, it is hard to tell. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree that *A. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicum* has more prominent beaks. However, Roxburgh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted "Capsules about twenty, nearly as high as the calyx, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a depressed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verticel, very downy, reniform, equally rounded at each end, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguishes it immediately from *S. indica* and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *asiatica*...." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surely, Roxburgh's plant is not the type species of *Abutilon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pannosum*, I think. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the same time my record of *Abutilon indicum* is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different, not like yours one in this thread. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Surajit ji for all the efforts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had posed the query because mericarps of the posted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plant are not well-pointed as I remember to have seen for *A. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicum*, but my observation does not take care of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility of variances in pointedness. Was disappointed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find almost no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picture of *A. pannosum*'s fruit on internet - thus not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure whether the fruit is globose as described OR seemingly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> globose. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:17 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Dinesh Ji, the problem is FoP recognizes both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *muticum*, with different author citation, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pannosum*. Roxburgh's plant has fruit both top and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom rounded. It appears to me the top of your mericarps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are not exactly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rounded. But at the same time I also understand that what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roxburgh recorded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in writing may be a bit different with the real thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moreover, Roxburgh's plant is not the only species which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is synonymous with *A. pannosum*. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, finally I never reject probability. I just don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, agreed Surajit ji with all your points. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:05 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Garg Sir, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I have seen only one *Abutilon* and that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *indicum* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - After going through lit. and efloras I think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear pictures of fruits, stipules, etc are necessary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to id species level >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of this genus which I miss in this thread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Flora of India, vol3 (BSI) recognizes *pannosum* but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't recognize *muticum*; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *;* or are they synonymous? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Roxburgh's *Sida tomentosa* is synonymous with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Abutilon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> muticum* G. Don of FBI, maybe synonymous with *S. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pannosum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://plants.jstor.org/stable/10.5555/al.ap.specimen.k000659530>* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not think the fruit description of Roxburgh's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plant, in FI, matches with the fruit picture in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread. Neither the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same FI description matches with other posts identified >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in our database. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:39 AM, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for validation please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efi page on Abutilon pannosum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/abutilon/abutilon-pannosum> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 20 February 2015 at 18:57 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:216131] along KSH 34 between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Malamba & Gundolli :: Abutilon pannosum FOR VALIDATION >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :: DVFEB47/80 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: along KSH34 Malamba & Gundolli] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F15962692663&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzekde88pkb7cBA1u24KlyW8HEVjHQ> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along Karnataka State Highway No. 34 ... between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Malamba & Gundolli >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date*: 15 OCT 2011 ... *Altitude*: about 640 m asl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Abutilon* ¿ *pannosum* ? ... (family: Malvaceae) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shrub, about 1 m height; flower about 30 mm across, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit about 15 mm across. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While it looks like the mericarps are not beaked, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure whether they are round enough to look like the ones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at Western >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desert Flora >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwesterndesertflora.geolab.cz%2Fherbarium%2FAbutilon_pannosum.php&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzegB3MlG4goXH1KytNL30j4SsU-MA> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Abutilon ¿ pannosum ?] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6257258369&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzff8a48gkP9wnYhW3ArQe4fwYW4Ag> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Abutilon ¿ pannosum ?] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6257260471&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfQFAPWqZZIl4HVxm53LZIJcMJXEg> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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