Thanks, Singh ji. Tabish needs to correct it in FOI <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Goat%20Willow.html> also.
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 00:42, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Please note that for more than 100 years the Kashmir Bredmushk was known > as S. caprea L. It was only Stewart in 1972 who ponted out that plant known > as S. caprea by Flora of British India as also Forest Flora of Punjab 1956 > was actually S. aegyptiaca L. Flora of Pakistan which usually lists all > plants from Kashmir does not list S. caprea. > This should help to confirm whether or not both occur in Kahmir. > S. aegyptiaca (S. medemii) — Egyptian willow A willow originating from > West Asia and widely cultivated. (Plants from Egypt, after which the > species was named, represent cultivated material.) Due to tree habit and > broad hairy leaves, S. aegyptiaca resembles the European goat willow S. > caprea; however, unlike S. caprea, it is easily propagated from cuttings > and thus has been favored for cultivation (Skvortsov 1999: 178). According > to Rehder (1954), it has been in cultivation in the United States since > 1888 (under the name S. medemii). As its naturalization is not yet > positively demonstrated, for the time being we prefer to treat any findings > as waifs. All examined herbarium samples that we could confidently identify > as S. aegyptiaca as well as living plants found in Berkshire County might > represent planted willows. Plants found in natural settings, deviating from > S. atrocinerea or S. cinerea by somewhat bluish foliage, more densely > pubescent leaves, and buds without recurved beak may belong to this species. > Another help in ID, wood under the bark is striated in S. aegyptiaca, > smooth in S. caprea. > > On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 2:07:14 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] > wrote: > >> I do not know much taxonomy but it is written in Wikipedia that unlike >> all other willows pure *S.caprea* can not be grown from cuttings. >> According to Wikipedia : >> *" **Unlike almost all other willows, pure specimens do not take root >> readily from cuttings; if a willow resembling the species does root easily, >> it is probably a hybrid with another species of willow."* Since *Bred >> Mushk * in Kashmir is propagated from cuttings ( I did it once myself) >> it must either be another species or a hybrid. >> Regards >> Taffazull >> >> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:29:17 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >> >>> Yes, Shakir. >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:15 PM Shakir Ahmad <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Salix caprea is Introduced species of kashmir.... And yes it has >>>> distribution In kashmir... >>>> I think salix caprea is different from S.aegyptiaca >>>> >>>> On Thu, 9 Mar, 2023, 8:48 pm Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiMxOqFkM_9AhVC1zgGHZ1iD_YQFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fefloraofindia.com%2F2021%2F05%2F19%2Fsalix-caprea%2F&usg=AOvVaw2Hvj0Kohejelrih0fNr2_t >>>>> >>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjizNLVkM_9AhXdyzgGHUlfAYQ4ChAWegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fiiim.res.in%2Fherbarium%2Fsalicaceae%2Fsalix_caprea.htm&usg=AOvVaw1n87oMpkSD8VJkD37krZvW >>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/5372952 >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 5:57 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, also needs to be corrected in FOI. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 6 Mar, 2023, 12:37 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiYlZft3cb9AhXIRWwGHQZiBhoQFnoECBYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FGoat%2520Willow.html&usg=AOvVaw3lMYSVqEysshX712--r4g- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiYlZft3cb9AhXIRWwGHQZiBhoQFnoECBYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FGoat%2520Willow.html&usg=AOvVaw3lMYSVqEysshX712--r4g- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiYlZft3cb9AhXIRWwGHQZiBhoQFnoECFwQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F209498115_A_short_chemical_review_on_Salix_Caprea_commonly_Known_as_Goat_willow&usg=AOvVaw2LBrSOLTdOGdEJn_H_hVFw >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 11:49 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Singh ji >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Mar, 2023, 01:32 Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes Garg ji, we don't have S. caprea in Kashmir. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:27:14 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, Singh ji, >>>>>>>>>> You mean to say the images at the following are also of >>>>>>>>>> *S.aegyptiaca*: >>>>>>>>>> Salix caprea >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/xfNLCI0QynA> (by >>>>>>>>>> Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Goat%20Willow.html >>>>>>>>>> (by Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>>> Salix caprea AT/JUNE2021/1 >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VFLfhkXZC-M> (by >>>>>>>>>> Anil ji) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 16:27 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:442736] Re: Salix caprea >>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Cc: GurcharanSingh <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Anil Thakur <[email protected]>, Tabish < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, Singh ji, >>>>>>>>>> You mean to say the images at the following are also of >>>>>>>>>> *S.aegyptiaca*: >>>>>>>>>> Salix caprea >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/xfNLCI0QynA> (by >>>>>>>>>> Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Goat%20Willow.html >>>>>>>>>> (by Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>>> Salix caprea AT/JUNE2021/1 >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VFLfhkXZC-M> (by >>>>>>>>>> Anil ji) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 00:46, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To set nomenclature right, the Salix caprea of Indian authors >>>>>>>>>>> incl FBI is correctly *Salix aegyptiaca* Linnaeus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 11:44:06 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan >>>>>>>>>>> Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes Salix caprea, Bred Mushak. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 4:32:11 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice photos >>>>>>>>>>>>> In Kashmir the sweet scented flowers of Bred Mushak signify >>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of winter. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for mentioning their botanical name. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 4:20:29 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ahmad wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location:kulgam >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date of collection:26-02-2023 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kashmiri name :Braed mushk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d76830a7-f377-4a5d-a6e0-0693b3e8c4d9n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d76830a7-f377-4a5d-a6e0-0693b3e8c4d9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b50c1f9c-4b59-49bb-849a-0112ecfb6c3an%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b50c1f9c-4b59-49bb-849a-0112ecfb6c3an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c42ade91-2afa-4c65-8c67-d91a84eaf683n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c42ade91-2afa-4c65-8c67-d91a84eaf683n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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