Thank you Garg ji and Gurcharan ji. Corrected at FOI now. Tabish ------------------------------------------- <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net The waterhole of flower lovers
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 4:05 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Singh ji. > Tabish needs to correct it in FOI > <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Goat%20Willow.html> also. > > On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 00:42, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Please note that for more than 100 years the Kashmir Bredmushk was known >> as S. caprea L. It was only Stewart in 1972 who ponted out that plant known >> as S. caprea by Flora of British India as also Forest Flora of Punjab 1956 >> was actually S. aegyptiaca L. Flora of Pakistan which usually lists all >> plants from Kashmir does not list S. caprea. >> This should help to confirm whether or not both occur in Kahmir. >> S. aegyptiaca (S. medemii) — Egyptian willow A willow originating from >> West Asia and widely cultivated. (Plants from Egypt, after which the >> species was named, represent cultivated material.) Due to tree habit and >> broad hairy leaves, S. aegyptiaca resembles the European goat willow S. >> caprea; however, unlike S. caprea, it is easily propagated from cuttings >> and thus has been favored for cultivation (Skvortsov 1999: 178). According >> to Rehder (1954), it has been in cultivation in the United States since >> 1888 (under the name S. medemii). As its naturalization is not yet >> positively demonstrated, for the time being we prefer to treat any findings >> as waifs. All examined herbarium samples that we could confidently identify >> as S. aegyptiaca as well as living plants found in Berkshire County might >> represent planted willows. Plants found in natural settings, deviating from >> S. atrocinerea or S. cinerea by somewhat bluish foliage, more densely >> pubescent leaves, and buds without recurved beak may belong to this species. >> Another help in ID, wood under the bark is striated in S. aegyptiaca, >> smooth in S. caprea. >> >> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 2:07:14 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> I do not know much taxonomy but it is written in Wikipedia that unlike >>> all other willows pure *S.caprea* can not be grown from cuttings. >>> According to Wikipedia : >>> *" **Unlike almost all other willows, pure specimens do not take root >>> readily from cuttings; if a willow resembling the species does root easily, >>> it is probably a hybrid with another species of willow."* Since *Bred >>> Mushk * in Kashmir is propagated from cuttings ( I did it once myself) >>> it must either be another species or a hybrid. >>> Regards >>> Taffazull >>> >>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:29:17 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, Shakir. >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:15 PM Shakir Ahmad <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Salix caprea is Introduced species of kashmir.... And yes it has >>>>> distribution In kashmir... >>>>> I think salix caprea is different from S.aegyptiaca >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 9 Mar, 2023, 8:48 pm Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiMxOqFkM_9AhVC1zgGHZ1iD_YQFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fefloraofindia.com%2F2021%2F05%2F19%2Fsalix-caprea%2F&usg=AOvVaw2Hvj0Kohejelrih0fNr2_t >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjizNLVkM_9AhXdyzgGHUlfAYQ4ChAWegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fiiim.res.in%2Fherbarium%2Fsalicaceae%2Fsalix_caprea.htm&usg=AOvVaw1n87oMpkSD8VJkD37krZvW >>>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/5372952 >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 5:57 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, also needs to be corrected in FOI. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Mar, 2023, 12:37 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiYlZft3cb9AhXIRWwGHQZiBhoQFnoECBYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FGoat%2520Willow.html&usg=AOvVaw3lMYSVqEysshX712--r4g- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiYlZft3cb9AhXIRWwGHQZiBhoQFnoECBYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FGoat%2520Willow.html&usg=AOvVaw3lMYSVqEysshX712--r4g- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiYlZft3cb9AhXIRWwGHQZiBhoQFnoECFwQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F209498115_A_short_chemical_review_on_Salix_Caprea_commonly_Known_as_Goat_willow&usg=AOvVaw2LBrSOLTdOGdEJn_H_hVFw >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 11:49 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Singh ji >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Mar, 2023, 01:32 Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes Garg ji, we don't have S. caprea in Kashmir. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:27:14 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Singh ji, >>>>>>>>>>> You mean to say the images at the following are also of >>>>>>>>>>> *S.aegyptiaca*: >>>>>>>>>>> Salix caprea >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/xfNLCI0QynA> (by >>>>>>>>>>> Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Goat%20Willow.html >>>>>>>>>>> (by Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>>>> Salix caprea AT/JUNE2021/1 >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VFLfhkXZC-M> (by >>>>>>>>>>> Anil ji) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 16:27 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:442736] Re: Salix caprea >>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: GurcharanSingh <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Anil Thakur <[email protected]>, Tabish >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Singh ji, >>>>>>>>>>> You mean to say the images at the following are also of >>>>>>>>>>> *S.aegyptiaca*: >>>>>>>>>>> Salix caprea >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/xfNLCI0QynA> (by >>>>>>>>>>> Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Goat%20Willow.html >>>>>>>>>>> (by Shakir ji) >>>>>>>>>>> Salix caprea AT/JUNE2021/1 >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VFLfhkXZC-M> (by >>>>>>>>>>> Anil ji) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 00:46, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To set nomenclature right, the Salix caprea of Indian authors >>>>>>>>>>>> incl FBI is correctly *Salix aegyptiaca* Linnaeus >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 11:44:06 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan >>>>>>>>>>>> Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes Salix caprea, Bred Mushak. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 4:32:11 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice photos >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Kashmir the sweet scented flowers of Bred Mushak signify >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of winter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for mentioning their botanical name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 4:20:29 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ahmad wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location:kulgam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date of collection:26-02-2023 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kashmiri name :Braed mushk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d76830a7-f377-4a5d-a6e0-0693b3e8c4d9n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d76830a7-f377-4a5d-a6e0-0693b3e8c4d9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b50c1f9c-4b59-49bb-849a-0112ecfb6c3an%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b50c1f9c-4b59-49bb-849a-0112ecfb6c3an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c42ade91-2afa-4c65-8c67-d91a84eaf683n%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c42ade91-2afa-4c65-8c67-d91a84eaf683n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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