Thanks very very much, Sam ji, for the two options of names. Let us go with a new name only if it is easy and convincing, needing no opinions.
Regards. Dinesh On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 9:22 PM Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Dinesh ji, > Well-done!! It is a good attempt and needy to naming to plants those > haven't Malayalam name. I agree with you, and your suggestion must be > rearrange to *മഷിത്തണ്ട് കുലകൾ mashithandu kulakal* or *മഷിത്തണ്ടിൻ > കുലകൾ mashithandin kulakal* (second is better). Please forward this > suggetion to experts for their opinion, > With regards, Sam. > > On Thu, 23 Mar 2023, 7:11 pm Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks very much, dear Sam ji, for earnest attempts at coining a name for >> this plant. >> >> I suggest we refrain from Malayalam spellings of English names. >> *മഷിത്തണ്ട്* *mashithandu* is nice name, its meaning too is good. >> However being a generic name for Impatiens spp., it will be good to have >> unique prefix to *mashithandu* for every species that needs a name. >> >> The epithet *fasciculata* means banded OR bundled. >> Please check whether you can come up with translation for bundled / >> clumped / clustered / grouped / arranged >> For example, my attempt - *കുലകളായി മഷിത്തണ്ട് kulakalaayi mashithandu* >> ... but I am not at all confident with my try, since I do not what other >> meaning it would make. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 5:41 PM Sam Kuzhalanattu < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Beautiful click and great work dear Dinesh ji. >>> Doesn't know it's specific name, so I suggest the Malayalam name as >>> *ബാൾസം,* translation of English *balsam* and another common name >>> *മഷിത്തണ്ട്* *mashithandu* for *Impatiens sp*. The name *മഷിത്തണ്ട്* >>> *mashithandu* is derived because of its fleshy soft stem used as an >>> eraser by kids to delete pencil writings on slate in early times. And let >>> us wait for experts comments. >>> With regards, Sam. >>> >>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023, 5:09 pm Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> *Impatiens fasciculata* Lam. >>>> [image: Impatiens fasciculata Lam.] >>>> >>>> *im-PAY-shuns* -- impatient; referring to the seed pod's habit of >>>> bursting open ... Dave's Botanary >>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=Impatiens> >>>> *fas-sik-yoo-LAH-tuh* -- banded, bundled ... Dave's Botanary >>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=fasciculata> >>>> >>>> *commonly known as*: fascicled-flower balsam >>>> >>>> >>>> *botanical names*: *Impatiens fasciculata* Lam. ... *homotypic >>>> synonyms*: *Balsamina fasciculata* (Lam.) DC. ... *heterotypic >>>> synonyms*: *Impatiens vivekananthanii* J.R.N.Dessai & Janarth. ... POWO >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:374081-1#synonyms> >>>> Bibliography / etymology >>>> ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~ >>>> *fascicled-flower balsam* >>>> >>>> - Flowers of India >>>> >>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Fascicled-Flower%20Balsam.html> >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~ >>>> *no given name / no name found* >>>> >>>> - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A >>>> Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. >>>> >>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf> >>>> 1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board) >>>> - Arigela, Ravi & Ahamed Kabeer, Althaf & Murthy, Gvs. (2021). Endemic >>>> flowering plants in Kodaikanal Wildlife Sanctuary, Tamil Nadu, India. >>>> >>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360622753_Endemic_flowering_plants_in_Kodaikanal_Wildlife_Sanctuary_Tamil_Nadu_India> >>>> NeBIO. 12. 1-20. >>>> - S., Jeevith & Arigela, Ravi & Singh, Rajeev & Ahamed Kabeer, >>>> Althaf & Chinnaiyan, Rajasekar & Cheravengat, Kunhikannan. (2022). The >>>> checklist of Impatiens Riv. ex L. (Balsaminaceae) in Nilgiri and Palani >>>> Hills of southern Western Ghats (India). >>>> >>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362376734_The_checklist_of_Impatiens_Riv_ex_L_Balsaminaceae_in_Nilgiri_and_Palani_Hills_of_southern_Western_Ghats_India> >>>> Annales Universitatis Paedagogicae Cracoviensis Studia Naturae. 7. 1-16. >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ MALAYALAM ~~~~~ >>>> *no given name / no name found* >>>> >>>> - Arigela, Ravi & Ahamed Kabeer, Althaf & Murthy, Gvs. (2021). Endemic >>>> flowering plants in Kodaikanal Wildlife Sanctuary, Tamil Nadu, India. >>>> >>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360622753_Endemic_flowering_plants_in_Kodaikanal_Wildlife_Sanctuary_Tamil_Nadu_India> >>>> NeBIO. 12. 1-20. >>>> - S., Jeevith & Arigela, Ravi & Singh, Rajeev & Ahamed Kabeer, >>>> Althaf & Chinnaiyan, Rajasekar & Cheravengat, Kunhikannan. (2022). The >>>> checklist of Impatiens Riv. ex L. (Balsaminaceae) in Nilgiri and Palani >>>> Hills of southern Western Ghats (India). >>>> >>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362376734_The_checklist_of_Impatiens_Riv_ex_L_Balsaminaceae_in_Nilgiri_and_Palani_Hills_of_southern_Western_Ghats_India> >>>> Annales Universitatis Paedagogicae Cracoviensis Studia Naturae. 7. 1-16. >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ TAMIL ~~~~~ >>>> *no given name / no name found* >>>> >>>> - Arigela, Ravi & Ahamed Kabeer, Althaf & Murthy, Gvs. (2021). Endemic >>>> flowering plants in Kodaikanal Wildlife Sanctuary, Tamil Nadu, India. >>>> >>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360622753_Endemic_flowering_plants_in_Kodaikanal_Wildlife_Sanctuary_Tamil_Nadu_India> >>>> NeBIO. 12. 1-20. >>>> - S., Jeevith & Arigela, Ravi & Singh, Rajeev & Ahamed Kabeer, >>>> Althaf & Chinnaiyan, Rajasekar & Cheravengat, Kunhikannan. (2022). The >>>> checklist of Impatiens Riv. ex L. (Balsaminaceae) in Nilgiri and Palani >>>> Hills of southern Western Ghats (India). >>>> >>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362376734_The_checklist_of_Impatiens_Riv_ex_L_Balsaminaceae_in_Nilgiri_and_Palani_Hills_of_southern_Western_Ghats_India> >>>> Annales Universitatis Paedagogicae Cracoviensis Studia Naturae. 7. 1-16. >>>> >>>> ~~~~~ x ~~~~~ >>>> >>>> >>>> Names compiled / updated at >>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/03/impatiens-fasciculata-lam.html >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 5:03 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Names compiled / updated at >>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/03/impatiens-fasciculata-lam.html >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, 23 December 2016 at 18:26:11 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Dinesh ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23 Dec 2016 4:52 p.m., "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> via Species >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> > >>>>>>> I <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/i> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Impatiens fasciculata* Lam. ... *family*: Balsaminaceae >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Impatiens fasciculata Lam.] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30428433714%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHjRmG08pbeMgyKsl7CZ1_Dribc7A> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Flowers of India] >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Frisearch%2Fsearch.php%3Fquery%3DImpatiens%2Bfasciculata%26stpos%3D0%26stype%3DAND&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGBNG3UZVHYn7Sd0x2NVGDZ8Q6Yxw> >>>>>>> [image: Discussions at efloraofindia] >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/Impatiens%20fasciculata> >>>>>>> [image: more views in flickr] >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3DImpatiensfasciculata%26m%3Dtags%26z%3Dm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHtrFIrWeqjhzHP9qGsmVh846xW9w> >>>>>>> [image: more views on Google Earth] >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.flickr.com%2Fservices%2Ffeeds%2Fgeo%2Findia%2F%26tags%3DImpatiensfasciculata%26format%3Dkml_nl&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEJ_A_GHnJmbR8Qu_GV_C38VPurvw> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *im-PAY-shuns* -- impatient; referring to the seed pod's habit of >>>>>>> bursting open ... Dave's Botanary >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DImpatiens&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNE9NfWmNOhac5u7yf4lhhQniRiZTw> >>>>>>> *fas-sik-yoo-LAH-tuh* -- banded, bundled ... Dave's Botanary >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dfasciculata&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHS5hD9x3OQpbe0e8s7D07OOGZ-Ng> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *commonly known as*: fascicled-flowered balsam >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/fascicled-flowered-balsam> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Impatiens fasciculata* Lam. ... *synonym*: >>>>>>> *Impatiens >>>>>>> vivekananthanii* Dessai and Janarthanam ... efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/cyj1yHx8tKw/wIbA0yx7CgAJ> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> November 14, 2016 ... along Attigundi Road, Karnataka >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/LYndDMYRUII/unsubscribe >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/3a749651-3d2f-48d2-a4e4-2d1d7fec5177n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/3a749651-3d2f-48d2-a4e4-2d1d7fec5177n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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