Great work, Dinesh ji and Sam ji On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 at 19:19, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks very very much, Sam ji, for the two options of names. > Let us go with a new name only if it is easy and convincing, needing no > opinions. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 9:22 PM Sam Kuzhalanattu < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Dinesh ji, >> Well-done!! It is a good attempt and needy to naming to plants those >> haven't Malayalam name. I agree with you, and your suggestion must be >> rearrange to *മഷിത്തണ്ട് കുലകൾ mashithandu kulakal* or *മഷിത്തണ്ടിൻ >> കുലകൾ mashithandin kulakal* (second is better). Please forward this >> suggetion to experts for their opinion, >> With regards, Sam. >> >> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023, 7:11 pm Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks very much, dear Sam ji, for earnest attempts at coining a name >>> for this plant. >>> >>> I suggest we refrain from Malayalam spellings of English names. >>> *മഷിത്തണ്ട്* *mashithandu* is nice name, its meaning too is good. >>> However being a generic name for Impatiens spp., it will be good to have >>> unique prefix to *mashithandu* for every species that needs a name. >>> >>> The epithet *fasciculata* means banded OR bundled. >>> Please check whether you can come up with translation for bundled / >>> clumped / clustered / grouped / arranged >>> For example, my attempt - *കുലകളായി മഷിത്തണ്ട് kulakalaayi mashithandu* >>> ... but I am not at all confident with my try, since I do not what other >>> meaning it would make. >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 5:41 PM Sam Kuzhalanattu < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Beautiful click and great work dear Dinesh ji. >>>> Doesn't know it's specific name, so I suggest the Malayalam name as >>>> *ബാൾസം,* translation of English *balsam* and another common name >>>> *മഷിത്തണ്ട്* *mashithandu* for *Impatiens sp*. The name *മഷിത്തണ്ട്* >>>> *mashithandu* is derived because of its fleshy soft stem used as an >>>> eraser by kids to delete pencil writings on slate in early times. And let >>>> us wait for experts comments. >>>> With regards, Sam. >>>> >>>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023, 5:09 pm Dinesh Valke, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Impatiens fasciculata* Lam. >>>>> [image: Impatiens fasciculata Lam.] >>>>> >>>>> *im-PAY-shuns* -- impatient; referring to the seed pod's habit of >>>>> bursting open ... Dave's Botanary >>>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=Impatiens> >>>>> *fas-sik-yoo-LAH-tuh* -- banded, bundled ... Dave's Botanary >>>>> <http://davesgarden.com/guides/botanary/search.php?search_text=fasciculata> >>>>> >>>>> *commonly known as*: fascicled-flower balsam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *botanical names*: *Impatiens fasciculata* Lam. ... *homotypic >>>>> synonyms*: *Balsamina fasciculata* (Lam.) DC. ... *heterotypic >>>>> synonyms*: *Impatiens vivekananthanii* J.R.N.Dessai & Janarth. ... >>>>> POWO >>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:374081-1#synonyms> >>>>> Bibliography / etymology >>>>> ~~~~~ ENGLISH ~~~~~ >>>>> *fascicled-flower balsam* >>>>> >>>>> - Flowers of India >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Fascicled-Flower%20Balsam.html> >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~ KANNADA ~~~~~ >>>>> *no given name / no name found* >>>>> >>>>> - Karnataka Biodiversity Board, 2019. FLORA OF KARNATAKA, A >>>>> Checklist, Volume – 2: Gymnosperms and Angiosperms. >>>>> >>>>> <https://kbb.karnataka.gov.in/storage/pdf-files/Flora%20of%20Karnataka/Part%201.pdf> >>>>> 1 - 1002 (Published by Karnataka Biodiversity Board) >>>>> - Arigela, Ravi & Ahamed Kabeer, Althaf & Murthy, Gvs. (2021). Endemic >>>>> flowering plants in Kodaikanal Wildlife Sanctuary, Tamil Nadu, India. >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360622753_Endemic_flowering_plants_in_Kodaikanal_Wildlife_Sanctuary_Tamil_Nadu_India> >>>>> NeBIO. 12. 1-20. >>>>> - S., Jeevith & Arigela, Ravi & Singh, Rajeev & Ahamed Kabeer, >>>>> Althaf & Chinnaiyan, Rajasekar & Cheravengat, Kunhikannan. (2022). The >>>>> checklist of Impatiens Riv. ex L. (Balsaminaceae) in Nilgiri and Palani >>>>> Hills of southern Western Ghats (India). >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362376734_The_checklist_of_Impatiens_Riv_ex_L_Balsaminaceae_in_Nilgiri_and_Palani_Hills_of_southern_Western_Ghats_India> >>>>> Annales Universitatis Paedagogicae Cracoviensis Studia Naturae. 7. >>>>> 1-16. >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~ MALAYALAM ~~~~~ >>>>> *no given name / no name found* >>>>> >>>>> - Arigela, Ravi & Ahamed Kabeer, Althaf & Murthy, Gvs. (2021). Endemic >>>>> flowering plants in Kodaikanal Wildlife Sanctuary, Tamil Nadu, India. >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360622753_Endemic_flowering_plants_in_Kodaikanal_Wildlife_Sanctuary_Tamil_Nadu_India> >>>>> NeBIO. 12. 1-20. >>>>> - S., Jeevith & Arigela, Ravi & Singh, Rajeev & Ahamed Kabeer, >>>>> Althaf & Chinnaiyan, Rajasekar & Cheravengat, Kunhikannan. (2022). The >>>>> checklist of Impatiens Riv. ex L. (Balsaminaceae) in Nilgiri and Palani >>>>> Hills of southern Western Ghats (India). >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362376734_The_checklist_of_Impatiens_Riv_ex_L_Balsaminaceae_in_Nilgiri_and_Palani_Hills_of_southern_Western_Ghats_India> >>>>> Annales Universitatis Paedagogicae Cracoviensis Studia Naturae. 7. >>>>> 1-16. >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~ TAMIL ~~~~~ >>>>> *no given name / no name found* >>>>> >>>>> - Arigela, Ravi & Ahamed Kabeer, Althaf & Murthy, Gvs. (2021). Endemic >>>>> flowering plants in Kodaikanal Wildlife Sanctuary, Tamil Nadu, India. >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360622753_Endemic_flowering_plants_in_Kodaikanal_Wildlife_Sanctuary_Tamil_Nadu_India> >>>>> NeBIO. 12. 1-20. >>>>> - S., Jeevith & Arigela, Ravi & Singh, Rajeev & Ahamed Kabeer, >>>>> Althaf & Chinnaiyan, Rajasekar & Cheravengat, Kunhikannan. (2022). The >>>>> checklist of Impatiens Riv. ex L. (Balsaminaceae) in Nilgiri and Palani >>>>> Hills of southern Western Ghats (India). >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362376734_The_checklist_of_Impatiens_Riv_ex_L_Balsaminaceae_in_Nilgiri_and_Palani_Hills_of_southern_Western_Ghats_India> >>>>> Annales Universitatis Paedagogicae Cracoviensis Studia Naturae. 7. >>>>> 1-16. >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~ x ~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Names compiled / updated at >>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/03/impatiens-fasciculata-lam.html >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 5:03 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Names compiled / updated at >>>>>> https://dineshvalke.blogspot.com/2023/03/impatiens-fasciculata-lam.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, 23 December 2016 at 18:26:11 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Dinesh ji, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2016 4:52 p.m., "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> via Species >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> > >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/i> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Impatiens fasciculata* Lam. ... *family*: Balsaminaceae >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Impatiens fasciculata Lam.] >>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F30428433714%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHjRmG08pbeMgyKsl7CZ1_Dribc7A> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Flowers of India] >>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Frisearch%2Fsearch.php%3Fquery%3DImpatiens%2Bfasciculata%26stpos%3D0%26stype%3DAND&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGBNG3UZVHYn7Sd0x2NVGDZ8Q6Yxw> >>>>>>>> [image: Discussions at efloraofindia] >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/Impatiens%20fasciculata> >>>>>>>> [image: more views in flickr] >>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3DImpatiensfasciculata%26m%3Dtags%26z%3Dm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHtrFIrWeqjhzHP9qGsmVh846xW9w> >>>>>>>> [image: more views on Google Earth] >>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.flickr.com%2Fservices%2Ffeeds%2Fgeo%2Findia%2F%26tags%3DImpatiensfasciculata%26format%3Dkml_nl&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEJ_A_GHnJmbR8Qu_GV_C38VPurvw> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *im-PAY-shuns* -- impatient; referring to the seed pod's habit of >>>>>>>> bursting open ... Dave's Botanary >>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DImpatiens&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNE9NfWmNOhac5u7yf4lhhQniRiZTw> >>>>>>>> *fas-sik-yoo-LAH-tuh* -- banded, bundled ... Dave's Botanary >>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dfasciculata&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHS5hD9x3OQpbe0e8s7D07OOGZ-Ng> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: fascicled-flowered balsam >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/fascicled-flowered-balsam> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Impatiens fasciculata* Lam. ... *synonym*: >>>>>>>> *Impatiens >>>>>>>> vivekananthanii* Dessai and Janarthanam ... efloraofindia >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/cyj1yHx8tKw/wIbA0yx7CgAJ> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> November 14, 2016 ... along Attigundi Road, Karnataka >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/LYndDMYRUII/unsubscribe >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/3a749651-3d2f-48d2-a4e4-2d1d7fec5177n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/3a749651-3d2f-48d2-a4e4-2d1d7fec5177n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC0bL2ZHTF8tiYVsAX-asXJ%3D0V1iS5f8k7ZRHbYcB4nsZw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC0bL2ZHTF8tiYVsAX-asXJ%3D0V1iS5f8k7ZRHbYcB4nsZw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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