Thanks Dinesh ji for hunting out differences, On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 11:28:40 AM UTC+5:30 Dinesh Valke wrote:
> Many thanks, Gurcharan ji. > I have attempted to make some notes from the internet. > Most of the sites have merged - ssp. *aegyptiaca* with ssp. *baccifera* - > thus was difficult to find separate descriptions. > > > Here below I have listed the differences briefly ... > *Ammannia baccifera ssp. baccifera* > cymes peduncled > epicalyx minute > capsule exceeding calyx tube > > *Ammannia baccifera ssp. aegyptiaca* > cymes sessile-subsessile > epicalyx horn-like > capsule included within the calyx > > > Here below are descriptions cited from two sites ... > *Ammannia baccifera ssp. baccifera* > Kerala Plants > <http://www.keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Ammannia_baccifera_ssp._baccifera> > > Erect annual herbs to 40 cm tall; stem 4-angled or more or less winged. > Leaves simple, decussate, sessile, 2-6 x 0.5-0.8 cm, linear to elliptic, > apex acute, base attenuate, chartaceous. Cymes dischasial, axillary. > Flowers 4 or 5-merous, perigynous; pedicels c. 2 mm long. Calyx tube 1-2 mm > long, campanulate; lobes 4, 1-1.5 mm long, triangular. Petals absent. > Stamens 4; filaments c. 0.5 mm long. Ovary 1 mm in diam., globose, > 4-5-locular; ovules many; stigma capitate. Capsule 1.5-2 mm across, > globose, exceeding calyx tube; seeds brownish, concavo-convex. > > The genus Ammannia L. (Lythraceae) in Egypt > <https://www.herbmedit.org/flora/17-097.pdf> > Erect or procumbent, branched herbs, up to 40 cm high; leaves narrow > oblong-lorate, 3-4 cm length, 0.6-0.8 cm width; leaf base at lower leaves > attenuate, at upper leaves obtuse or cuneate; cymes peduncled, lax; flowers > pediceled; hypanthium 1-1.5 mm length and width, ribs obscure; epicalyx > minute; petals absent; stamens 4, yellow; capsule reddish yellow, 1-1.5 mm > diameter, exceeding hypanthium, style length up to 0.5 mm; seeds 0.5 mm, > brownish. > > *Ammannia baccifera ssp. aegyptiaca* > Kerala Plants > <http://www.keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Ammannia_baccifera_ssp._aegyptiaca> > > Annual herbs, often red, erect or ascending, simple or branched, 2-80 cm > tall; stems 4-angular or ± winged. Leaves opposite, 0.7-7 x 0.15-1(-1.6) > cm, linear to elliptic, narrowed to the apex, narrowed to a cuneate base or > obtuse or subcordate. Cymes (1-)3- many-flowered, ± lax to dense; peduncles > 1 (-2) mm long; pedicels 1-2.5 mm long; bracteoles linear-lanceolate. > Calyx-tube turbinate-campanulate, 1-2 mm long; lobes 4, broadly triangular, > 1-1.5 mm long; intermediary appendages absent or very inconspicuous. Petals > absent. Stamens 4, as long as the calyx-lobes or shorter. Ovary globose, > 0.7-1.2 mm in diameter; style 0.1-0.3 mm long. Capsule globose, 1-2.5 mm in > diameter, 1/2-3/4 included within the calyx; seeds brownish, > concavo-convex, 0.4 mm in diameter. > > The genus Ammannia L. (Lythraceae) in Egypt > <https://www.herbmedit.org/flora/17-097.pdf> > Erect, branched herb, stem suffruticose at the base, up to 40 cm high; > leaves lorate, 4-6 cm length, 0.6-0.8 mm width, with obtuse-cuneate bases; > cymes sessile-subsessile with dense, glomurate flowers; hypanthium 1-1.5 mm > length and width, ribs obscure, epicalyx horn-like; petals absent, stamens > 4, yellow; capsule reddish yellow, 1.5-2.0 mm diameter included in the > hypanthium. > > > *In this posted observation of Ammania baccifera*, > I see peduncled cymes; > and the leaf base as attenuate-cuneate, compared to ssp. *aegyptica* > which has a sub-cordate base. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 7:29 AM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dinesh ji, need to know differences between A. baccifera and A. >> aegyptiaca before we decide ID of this also. >> >> On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:33:31 AM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: >> >>> OK Dinesh ji. >>> Thank you >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 11:19 pm, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Saroj ji. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 22:08:28 UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: >>>> >>>>> I guess the ID is correct. >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 7:43 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> *Ammannia baccifera* L. ... FOR VALIDATION >>>>>> Waghbil, Thane, Maharashtra :: Sep 27, 2008 · 2:08 PM IST :: about 3 >>>>>> m (10 ft) asl >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> [image: Ammannia baccifera L. ... FOR VALIDATION] >>>>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/153775283> >>>>>> [image: Ammannia baccifera L. ... 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