Thanks very much, Gurcharan ji. I will wait for those who are familiar with genus *Ammannia* for the sake of their study, to validate this ID. I have suggested ID based merely on my thinking. Regards. Dinesh.
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 9:40 PM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Dinesh ji for hunting out differences, > > On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 11:28:40 AM UTC+5:30 Dinesh Valke wrote: > >> Many thanks, Gurcharan ji. >> I have attempted to make some notes from the internet. >> Most of the sites have merged - ssp. *aegyptiaca* with ssp. *baccifera* >> - thus was difficult to find separate descriptions. >> >> >> Here below I have listed the differences briefly ... >> *Ammannia baccifera ssp. baccifera* >> cymes peduncled >> epicalyx minute >> capsule exceeding calyx tube >> >> *Ammannia baccifera ssp. aegyptiaca* >> cymes sessile-subsessile >> epicalyx horn-like >> capsule included within the calyx >> >> >> Here below are descriptions cited from two sites ... >> *Ammannia baccifera ssp. baccifera* >> Kerala Plants >> <http://www.keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Ammannia_baccifera_ssp._baccifera> >> Erect annual herbs to 40 cm tall; stem 4-angled or more or less winged. >> Leaves simple, decussate, sessile, 2-6 x 0.5-0.8 cm, linear to elliptic, >> apex acute, base attenuate, chartaceous. Cymes dischasial, axillary. >> Flowers 4 or 5-merous, perigynous; pedicels c. 2 mm long. Calyx tube 1-2 mm >> long, campanulate; lobes 4, 1-1.5 mm long, triangular. Petals absent. >> Stamens 4; filaments c. 0.5 mm long. Ovary 1 mm in diam., globose, >> 4-5-locular; ovules many; stigma capitate. Capsule 1.5-2 mm across, >> globose, exceeding calyx tube; seeds brownish, concavo-convex. >> >> The genus Ammannia L. (Lythraceae) in Egypt >> <https://www.herbmedit.org/flora/17-097.pdf> >> Erect or procumbent, branched herbs, up to 40 cm high; leaves narrow >> oblong-lorate, 3-4 cm length, 0.6-0.8 cm width; leaf base at lower leaves >> attenuate, at upper leaves obtuse or cuneate; cymes peduncled, lax; flowers >> pediceled; hypanthium 1-1.5 mm length and width, ribs obscure; epicalyx >> minute; petals absent; stamens 4, yellow; capsule reddish yellow, 1-1.5 mm >> diameter, exceeding hypanthium, style length up to 0.5 mm; seeds 0.5 mm, >> brownish. >> >> *Ammannia baccifera ssp. aegyptiaca* >> Kerala Plants >> <http://www.keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Ammannia_baccifera_ssp._aegyptiaca> >> Annual herbs, often red, erect or ascending, simple or branched, 2-80 cm >> tall; stems 4-angular or ± winged. Leaves opposite, 0.7-7 x 0.15-1(-1.6) >> cm, linear to elliptic, narrowed to the apex, narrowed to a cuneate base or >> obtuse or subcordate. Cymes (1-)3- many-flowered, ± lax to dense; peduncles >> 1 (-2) mm long; pedicels 1-2.5 mm long; bracteoles linear-lanceolate. >> Calyx-tube turbinate-campanulate, 1-2 mm long; lobes 4, broadly triangular, >> 1-1.5 mm long; intermediary appendages absent or very inconspicuous. Petals >> absent. Stamens 4, as long as the calyx-lobes or shorter. Ovary globose, >> 0.7-1.2 mm in diameter; style 0.1-0.3 mm long. Capsule globose, 1-2.5 mm in >> diameter, 1/2-3/4 included within the calyx; seeds brownish, >> concavo-convex, 0.4 mm in diameter. >> >> The genus Ammannia L. (Lythraceae) in Egypt >> <https://www.herbmedit.org/flora/17-097.pdf> >> Erect, branched herb, stem suffruticose at the base, up to 40 cm high; >> leaves lorate, 4-6 cm length, 0.6-0.8 mm width, with obtuse-cuneate bases; >> cymes sessile-subsessile with dense, glomurate flowers; hypanthium 1-1.5 mm >> length and width, ribs obscure, epicalyx horn-like; petals absent, stamens >> 4, yellow; capsule reddish yellow, 1.5-2.0 mm diameter included in the >> hypanthium. >> >> >> *In this posted observation of Ammania baccifera*, >> I see peduncled cymes; >> and the leaf base as attenuate-cuneate, compared to ssp. *aegyptica* >> which has a sub-cordate base. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 7:29 AM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dinesh ji, need to know differences between A. baccifera and A. >>> aegyptiaca before we decide ID of this also. >>> >>> On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:33:31 AM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: >>> >>>> OK Dinesh ji. >>>> Thank you >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 11:19 pm, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, 8 June 2023 at 22:08:28 UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I guess the ID is correct. >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 7:43 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *Ammannia baccifera* L. ... FOR VALIDATION >>>>>>> Waghbil, Thane, Maharashtra :: Sep 27, 2008 · 2:08 PM IST :: about 3 >>>>>>> m (10 ft) asl >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> [image: Ammannia baccifera L. ... FOR VALIDATION] >>>>>>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/153775283> >>>>>>> [image: Ammannia baccifera L. ... 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