Truth is somewhere in between. On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 12:58, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> As I still feel confused, let us see the detailed descriptions: > > > > *Myriactis nepalensis* Lessing > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200024319> > > *Myriactis wightii* Candolle in Wight > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200024321> > > Flora of China > > Herbs, *perennial*, usually robust, 15-100 cm tall; rhizomes short, > procumbent. Stems erect, often branched from middle or base, branches > ascending, glabrous or sparsely villous. Leaves: basal and lower cauline > winged petiolate, petiole to 10 cm, blade simple, large, ovate-elliptic, > sometimes lobed or parted, lateral lobes 1- or 2(or 3)-paired, petiole base > sheathing; mid cauline elliptic to ovate, 4-10 × 2.5-4.5 cm, margin > coarsely serrate or crenate, base decurrent into broad, winged petioles > (lower) or sessile (upper), petiole base or blade base ± > auriculate-clasping; upper gradually smaller, sessile, elliptic, > oblanceolate, or lanceolate, *surfaces sparsely villosulous particularly > on veins, *more moderately so adaxially, base ± auriculate-clasping. > Capitula globose or hemispheric, 0.7-1.5 cm in diam., solitary or numerous > in laxly corymbose-paniculiform synflorescences. Phyllaries 2- or > 3-seriate, lanceolate, abaxially villosulous. > *Ray florets 8- or more seriate, lamina orbicular or ovate, 0.6-0.8 mm, *apex > rounded or emarginate; *disk floret limb broadly funnelform, 1.2-1.3 mm, > *villosulous, > 4-lobed. Achenes straw-colored, 1.6-2.1 mm, faces sometimes 1-veined, > apical collar viscid, dark.* Fl. and fr. Apr-Nov.* > > Forests, forest margins, thicket margins, slopes, wet areas on > grassy-shrubby disturbed slopes, steep moist slopes, meadows, open and > moist or humid areas along streamsides, ravines, roadsides;* 700-3700 m.* > Guangdong, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hubei, Hunan, Jiangxi, Sichuan, Xizang, Yunnan > [Bhutan, India, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Vietnam]. > > Herbs, *annual*, 20-90 cm tall. Stems erect, usually branched from > middle, rarely proximally, or simple, subscapose, branches ascending or > spreading, densely to sparsely villous or glabrate in lower part. Leaves > often with axillary branches or fascicled;* lower blade ovate, or > sometimes lyrate-pinnatilobate, *terminal lobe ovate; mid cauline petiole > ± broadly winged, blade broadly to narrowly ovate, 5-8 × 3-6 cm, rarely > lyrate-pinnatilobate, terminal lobe same shape as blade, > > > > > *surfaces villous to strigose-villous or villous only along veins, *base > clasping or auriculate-clasping, margin deeply crenate or serrate or > incised-serrate, entire in uppermost leaves or lateral lobes. > Capitula few or numerous in terminal, laxly corymbiform or > paniculate-corymbiform and lateral, laxly racemiform synflorescences; > peduncle 0.4-5 cm. Involucre hemispheric, ca. 1.2 cm in diam. (in fruit); > phyllaries 2(or 3)-seriate, subequal, narrowly oblong to lanceolate, 3-4 > mm, abaxially sparsely villous to glabrate, apex fimbriate-lacerate. > *Ray florets 2-seriate,* tube ca. 0.4 mm, glandular, *lamina linear, > 0.8-1 × 0.1-0.2 mm,* apex obtuse, sometimes 2-lobed; *disk florets tube > cylindric, ca. 0.4 mm, limb campanulate,* 0.8-1 mm, 5-lobed, glabrous or > base of limb barely glandular. Achenes greenish to pale brown, 1.5-2.5 mm. > *Fl. > and fr. Jul-Nov.* > > Forests on slopes, mixed forests, grasslands, streamsides; *1900-3600 m. > *Guizhou, > Sichuan, Xizang, Yunnan [India, Indonesia, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Vietnam]. > > BSI flora of India > <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=4555&type=3> > > > > > > > > > > > > Herbs, glabrous > <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5470&type=4>, > or hispid stems prominently ribbed. Leaves ovate or lanceolate, coarsely > serrate 5 - 12.5 x 2 - 4 cm, sessile or subsessile. > > > > > Heads globose, ca 8 mm across, borne on short rigid peduncles, > subpaniculate. Involucral bracts acute, reflexed.* Ray florets ca > 10-seriate.* Disc florets few. Achenes ca 1 mm long, mucronate. > > > Herbs, erect > <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5474&type=4>, > hirsute-pubescent or villous, (10-15) 60 - 90 cm high. Lower leaves ovate > or *lyrate*, or obovate-spathulate, 2.5 - 10 cm, long petioled; upper > obovate-oblong, entire or distantly serrate, auricled at base, sessile, > sparsely pubescent on both surfaces. > Heads 6-8 mm across, long peduncled. Involucral bracts ca 4 mm long, acute > or obtuse at apex, scarious at margin, pubescent. *Ligule white at first, > becoming purplish 2.5 - 3 mm long, linear,* Disc florets yellow: ca 2 mm > long. Achenes ca 2 mm long, shortly beaked, oblanceolate, glabrous. > > Flora of British India as per IBIS Flora > > *Less. ; DC. Prodr. v.* 308 > <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/myriactis-nepalensis-less-3> > ; *glabrous villous or hispid, leaves ovate or lanceolate coarsely > serrate, heads subpaniculate, invol. bracts acute at length reflexed, > achenes mucronate at the top not beaked.* Clarke Comp. Ind. 38. M. > Gmelini, DC. l. c. 309. M. oleosa and M. gracilis, Edgew. in Trans. Linn. > Soc. xx. 65 and 66. M. carnosa, Wall. Cat. 3219. Botryadenia Gmelini, > Fisch, & Mey. Ind. Sem. ii. 30 ; Regel Sert. Petrop. t. 23. Lavenia > dentata, Wall. Cat. 3216 A. > *TEMPERATE HIMALAYA *; from Kashmir to Sikkim, alt. 5-10,000 ft. KHASIA > MTS., alt. 4-6000 ft. —DISTRIB. Central Asia. > > *A most variable weedy plant, of which I am quite unable to make > satisfactory varieties ; indeed, as Bentham suggests, it may be only a form > of Wightii. * > > *DC. in Wight Contrib.* 10 ; Prodr. v. 308 > <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/myriactis-wightii-dc-1> ; > *pubescent > or villous, leaves ovate or lyrate distantly serrate, upper lanceolate > sessile, heads long-peduncled, invol. bracts acute villous, achenes shortly > beaked. *Wight Ic. t. 1091 ; Clarke Comp. Ind. 38. M. javanica, DC. l. c. > ; Clarke l. c. > > > > > Nilgherry MTS. ; alt. 8000 ft. Ceylon ; central province, alt. 5-8000 ft. > > A weed 2-3 ft. high ; stem rigid, branches divaricating. Leaves 1-4 in., > petiole winged, upper auricled. Heads 1/3 in. diam., on long strict > peduncles. > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 11:52, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Tabish ji. >> After thorough scrutiny, I agree with you. >> Although the keys are correct, the distribution given is wrong in BSI >> Flora of India >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=4555&type=3>. >> However, POWO >> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:234023-1> >> gives the correct distribution. >> Keys in Flora of China >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=121445> are >> also correct. >> >> >> On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 18:59, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Tabish ji, you may be right in some sense. The confusion is confounded >>> by Flora of British India and unfortunately BSI Flora mostly copying it >>> blindly and showing distribution of both varieties of M. wightii in Tamil >>> Nadu, var, wightii in Sri Lanka also. >>> I think we may have several uploads of M. nepalensis from many >>> parts of India. I am uploading specimens from Uttarakhand separately. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 2:20 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Thank you Tabish. >>>> >>>> Can you please send me the link of any journal/documentation if you >>>> have the access ?? >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 2:06 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, *Myriactis wightii *is already known from Nepal. Also, do have a >>>>> look at the images of M. wightii at POWO: >>>>> >>>>> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:234023-1/images >>>>> There are images similar to the plants in your posts. >>>>> Tabish >>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 12:33 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> However, POWO and the GBIF show the distribution for Nepal ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 12:43 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In that case my posts should be addition to nepal. Please have a >>>>>>> look at my posts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/fQgYFUp6o_Q >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/1cjL8ie8NiU >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/fiotXcQ7yAU >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/cL343ekztdE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Tabish ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 12:52 AM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actually all the images depicted on the eFI page for Myriactis >>>>>>>> nepalensis >>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/15/myriactis-nepalensis/> should >>>>>>>> be of Myriactis wightii. If you see the description of M. >>>>>>>> nepalensis on Flora of China >>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200024319>, >>>>>>>> the ray florets are much smaller than the disk florets, and are in 8-10 >>>>>>>> series. The illustration on FOC page correctly depicts the species. The >>>>>>>> probable culprit for this confusion are the two images linked on the >>>>>>>> FOC >>>>>>>> page, which don't agree with the illustration: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=103835&flora_id=800 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=103836&flora_id=800 >>>>>>>> An image of Myriactis nepalensis from the book *Flowers of the Se >>>>>>>> La* by Magnus Lidén & Pankaj Bharali is attached here. >>>>>>>> Tabish >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c0f7cad1-3908-4d61-b17e-fe520a596183n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c0f7cad1-3908-4d61-b17e-fe520a596183n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytQGoRfkqkJWXEeKPKgYGxjH_Qb27V8D4EBJOP-i5SKnog%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytQGoRfkqkJWXEeKPKgYGxjH_Qb27V8D4EBJOP-i5SKnog%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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