Thank you sir. Most interesting. I see now it is no longer even called Lonicera but Devendraea myrtillus!!! Never heard of Devendraea before. No wonder amateurs like me struggle.
On Saturday, 2 September 2023 at 07:59:56 UTC+1 J.M. Garg wrote: > Yes, I agree as per images and details at > https://efloraofindia.com/2012/08/19/lonicera-myrtillus/ > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 at 12:32, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just have a look at : >> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77112378-1 >> https://www.gbif.org/species/8154107 >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 4:06 AM 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you. >>> I am very confused. >>> This is getting a bit technical for me. >>> >>> Most sites say Lonicera obovatus has blue berries. >>> Found this link which states Lonicera obovatus berries are red. >>> In the link it even states exactly where it was found. Most interesting! >>> >>> https://biodiversity.bt/observation/show/23330 >>> >>> On the Kew site for *Lonicera angustifolia* var. *myrtillus..it shows >>> the red berry but Lonicera obovatus is not listed as a synonym* >>> >>> >>> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77112378-1/images >>> >>> Quote from link above.... >>> "Homotypic Synonyms >>> >>> - *Devendraea myrtillus* (Hook.f. & Thomson) Pusalkar >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115403-1> >>> in Taiwania 56: 213 (2011) >>> - *Lonicera depressa* var. *myrtillus* (Hook.f. & Thomson) >>> G.Nicholson >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:2937637-4> >>> in Hand-List Trees Shrubs 2: 13 (1896), nom. superfl. >>> - *Lonicera myrtillus* Hook.f. & Thomson >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:148955-1> >>> in J. Proc. Linn. Soc., Bot. 2: 168 (1858) >>> - *Lonicera parvifolia* var. *myrtillus* (Hook.f. & Thomson) >>> C.B.Clarke >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:2937636-4> >>> in J.D.Hooker, Fl. Brit. India 3: 13 (1882) >>> >>> Heterotypic Synonyms >>> >>> - *Caprifolium parvifolium* Kuntze >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:148381-1> >>> in Revis. Gen. Pl. 1: 274 (1891) >>> - *Devendraea myrtillus* var. *cyclophylla* (Rehder) Pusalkar >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115407-1> >>> in Taiwania 56: 213 (2011) >>> - *Devendraea myrtillus* var. *depressa* (Rehder) Pusalkar >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115405-1> >>> in Taiwania 56: 213 (2011) >>> - *Lonicera angustifolia* var. *rhododactyla* W.W.Sm. >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:2877511-4> >>> in Notes Roy. Bot. Gard. Edinburgh 10: 45 (1917) >>> - *Lonicera myrtillus* var. *cyclophylla* Rehder >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115406-1> >>> in J. Arnold Arbor. 22: 579 (1941) >>> - *Lonicera myrtillus* var. *depressa* Rehder >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115404-1> >>> in C.S.Sargent, Trees & Shrubs 1: 87 (1903) >>> - *Lonicera parvifolia* Hook.f. & Thomson >>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:2937639-4> >>> in J. Proc. Linn. Soc., Bot. 2: 168 (1858), nom. illeg." >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 06:03:59 UTC+1 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >>> >>>> Both are from the same plant and from UP, India ? >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 1:52 AM 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greetings all. >>>>> Updated info. >>>>> My lovely expert in Bergen Norway ... Lars Torsten Eriksson has come >>>>> back to me. >>>>> The berry is red! >>>>> This completely rules out Lonicera obovata...as that has a blueberry. >>>>> See 2nd pic in link below. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Blueberry%20Honeysuckle.html >>>>> >>>>> Quote Lars.....Our specimen seems to be Lonicera angustifolia var. >>>>> myrtillus, a similar species with red berries. >>>>> See attached image from today. (The old flora uses the synonym >>>>> Lonicera parvifolia.) [image: LONICERA ANGUSTIFOLIA VAR MYRTILLUS >>>>> via lars 14-08-2023 10-27-54.jpg] >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, 12 August 2023 at 15:49:32 UTC+1 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My pleasure ! >>>>>> Thank you Sheila ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 7:59 PM 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju....I am thrilled to get an answer...that looks just >>>>>>> perfect. >>>>>>> Your help is very much appreciated. >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> I was sure someone here would help me! >>>>>>> Warmest wishes Sheila. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, 12 August 2023 at 10:51:28 UTC+1 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Lonicera obovata *Royle >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 1:05 PM 'PlantaholicSheila' via >>>>>>>> eFloraofIndia <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> BUMP.....I fear my title has put you off...this plant is from >>>>>>>>> India! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 17:51:42 UTC+1 PlantaholicSheila >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Found in Bergen Botanical gardens. >>>>>>>>>> Decided it was a very cute Lonicera sp so wrote to the gardens >>>>>>>>>> for help to pin it down. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ............................................................................................... >>>>>>>>>> Just had this reply... >>>>>>>>>> "I checked the specimen. It was received at one of our other >>>>>>>>>> gardens in 1995, supposedly wild collected and only determined as >>>>>>>>>> ”Lonicera >>>>>>>>>> sp.”, unfortunately. The data in our database on this particulkar >>>>>>>>>> specimen >>>>>>>>>> is rather weird, and not to be trusted. I believe it to have been >>>>>>>>>> collected >>>>>>>>>> in Kumaon in Uttar Pradesh (India), but the record say something >>>>>>>>>> else. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I regret that this is the extent of our current information on >>>>>>>>>> this specimen." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, and do keep nurturing your plant-dependency. Thanks >>>>>>>>>> for writing! >>>>>>>>>> /Torsten >>>>>>>>>> ........................................................ >>>>>>>>>> Can any one here help further? >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> Sheila.[image: LONICERA XXX 22-07-2023 16-24-24.JPG][image: >>>>>>>>>> LONICERA XXX 22-07-2023 16-25-37.JPG][image: LONICERA XXX >>>>>>>>>> 22-07-2023 16-25-58.JPG][image: LONICERA XXX 22-07-2023 >>>>>>>>>> 16-24-36.JPG] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/330b9e9c-e1cc-4b36-9265-25a339d83becn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/330b9e9c-e1cc-4b36-9265-25a339d83becn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/9eedb87c-bb15-4ab2-b399-852098d8538fn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/9eedb87c-bb15-4ab2-b399-852098d8538fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ff7d7290-542a-4be0-a6f4-e3fbc73c2f74n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ff7d7290-542a-4be0-a6f4-e3fbc73c2f74n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/6cfefec9-1244-4d91-bf96-72983cc38c49n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/6cfefec9-1244-4d91-bf96-72983cc38c49n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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