Thank you Mr. Garg for the validation ! Saroj Kasaju
On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 1:19 PM 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia < [email protected]> wrote: > Thank you sir. > Most interesting. > I see now it is no longer even called Lonicera but Devendraea myrtillus!!! > Never heard of Devendraea before. > No wonder amateurs like me struggle. > > On Saturday, 2 September 2023 at 07:59:56 UTC+1 J.M. Garg wrote: > >> Yes, I agree as per images and details at >> https://efloraofindia.com/2012/08/19/lonicera-myrtillus/ >> >> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 at 12:32, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Just have a look at : >>> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77112378-1 >>> https://www.gbif.org/species/8154107 >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 4:06 AM 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> I am very confused. >>>> This is getting a bit technical for me. >>>> >>>> Most sites say Lonicera obovatus has blue berries. >>>> Found this link which states Lonicera obovatus berries are red. >>>> In the link it even states exactly where it was found. Most interesting! >>>> >>>> https://biodiversity.bt/observation/show/23330 >>>> >>>> On the Kew site for *Lonicera angustifolia* var. *myrtillus..it shows >>>> the red berry but Lonicera obovatus is not listed as a synonym* >>>> >>>> >>>> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77112378-1/images >>>> >>>> Quote from link above.... >>>> "Homotypic Synonyms >>>> >>>> - *Devendraea myrtillus* (Hook.f. & Thomson) Pusalkar >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115403-1> >>>> in Taiwania 56: 213 (2011) >>>> - *Lonicera depressa* var. *myrtillus* (Hook.f. & Thomson) >>>> G.Nicholson >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:2937637-4> >>>> in Hand-List Trees Shrubs 2: 13 (1896), nom. superfl. >>>> - *Lonicera myrtillus* Hook.f. & Thomson >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:148955-1> >>>> in J. Proc. Linn. Soc., Bot. 2: 168 (1858) >>>> - *Lonicera parvifolia* var. *myrtillus* (Hook.f. & Thomson) >>>> C.B.Clarke >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:2937636-4> >>>> in J.D.Hooker, Fl. Brit. India 3: 13 (1882) >>>> >>>> Heterotypic Synonyms >>>> >>>> - *Caprifolium parvifolium* Kuntze >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:148381-1> >>>> in Revis. Gen. Pl. 1: 274 (1891) >>>> - *Devendraea myrtillus* var. *cyclophylla* (Rehder) Pusalkar >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115407-1> >>>> in Taiwania 56: 213 (2011) >>>> - *Devendraea myrtillus* var. *depressa* (Rehder) Pusalkar >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115405-1> >>>> in Taiwania 56: 213 (2011) >>>> - *Lonicera angustifolia* var. *rhododactyla* W.W.Sm. >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:2877511-4> >>>> in Notes Roy. Bot. Gard. Edinburgh 10: 45 (1917) >>>> - *Lonicera myrtillus* var. *cyclophylla* Rehder >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115406-1> >>>> in J. Arnold Arbor. 22: 579 (1941) >>>> - *Lonicera myrtillus* var. *depressa* Rehder >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77115404-1> >>>> in C.S.Sargent, Trees & Shrubs 1: 87 (1903) >>>> - *Lonicera parvifolia* Hook.f. & Thomson >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:2937639-4> >>>> in J. Proc. Linn. Soc., Bot. 2: 168 (1858), nom. illeg." >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 06:03:59 UTC+1 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >>>> >>>>> Both are from the same plant and from UP, India ? >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 1:52 AM 'PlantaholicSheila' via eFloraofIndia < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings all. >>>>>> Updated info. >>>>>> My lovely expert in Bergen Norway ... Lars Torsten Eriksson has come >>>>>> back to me. >>>>>> The berry is red! >>>>>> This completely rules out Lonicera obovata...as that has a >>>>>> blueberry. >>>>>> See 2nd pic in link below. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Blueberry%20Honeysuckle.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Lars.....Our specimen seems to be Lonicera angustifolia var. >>>>>> myrtillus, a similar species with red berries. >>>>>> See attached image from today. (The old flora uses the synonym >>>>>> Lonicera parvifolia.) [image: LONICERA ANGUSTIFOLIA VAR MYRTILLUS >>>>>> via lars 14-08-2023 10-27-54.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, 12 August 2023 at 15:49:32 UTC+1 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My pleasure ! >>>>>>> Thank you Sheila ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 7:59 PM 'PlantaholicSheila' via >>>>>>> eFloraofIndia <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju....I am thrilled to get an answer...that looks just >>>>>>>> perfect. >>>>>>>> Your help is very much appreciated. >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> I was sure someone here would help me! >>>>>>>> Warmest wishes Sheila. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, 12 August 2023 at 10:51:28 UTC+1 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Lonicera obovata *Royle >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 1:05 PM 'PlantaholicSheila' via >>>>>>>>> eFloraofIndia <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BUMP.....I fear my title has put you off...this plant is from >>>>>>>>>> India! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 17:51:42 UTC+1 PlantaholicSheila >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Found in Bergen Botanical gardens. >>>>>>>>>>> Decided it was a very cute Lonicera sp so wrote to the gardens >>>>>>>>>>> for help to pin it down. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ............................................................................................... >>>>>>>>>>> Just had this reply... >>>>>>>>>>> "I checked the specimen. It was received at one of our other >>>>>>>>>>> gardens in 1995, supposedly wild collected and only determined as >>>>>>>>>>> ”Lonicera >>>>>>>>>>> sp.”, unfortunately. The data in our database on this particulkar >>>>>>>>>>> specimen >>>>>>>>>>> is rather weird, and not to be trusted. I believe it to have been >>>>>>>>>>> collected >>>>>>>>>>> in Kumaon in Uttar Pradesh (India), but the record say something >>>>>>>>>>> else. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I regret that this is the extent of our current information on >>>>>>>>>>> this specimen." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, and do keep nurturing your plant-dependency. Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> for writing! >>>>>>>>>>> /Torsten >>>>>>>>>>> ........................................................ >>>>>>>>>>> Can any one here help further? >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> Sheila.[image: LONICERA XXX 22-07-2023 16-24-24.JPG][image: >>>>>>>>>>> LONICERA XXX 22-07-2023 16-25-37.JPG][image: LONICERA XXX >>>>>>>>>>> 22-07-2023 16-25-58.JPG][image: LONICERA XXX 22-07-2023 >>>>>>>>>>> 16-24-36.JPG] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/330b9e9c-e1cc-4b36-9265-25a339d83becn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/330b9e9c-e1cc-4b36-9265-25a339d83becn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/9eedb87c-bb15-4ab2-b399-852098d8538fn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/9eedb87c-bb15-4ab2-b399-852098d8538fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ff7d7290-542a-4be0-a6f4-e3fbc73c2f74n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ff7d7290-542a-4be0-a6f4-e3fbc73c2f74n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/6cfefec9-1244-4d91-bf96-72983cc38c49n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/6cfefec9-1244-4d91-bf96-72983cc38c49n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/31e147ac-5348-455e-b2d9-86211762b434n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/31e147ac-5348-455e-b2d9-86211762b434n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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