Dear Shakir Ji, Had posted photos of flowers last year in my main post where you can see them. Will post them again when the plants are in full bloom. I think will take a week or two. Regards
On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 5:48:59 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad wrote: > Kindly share photos in flowering > > On Thu, 11 Apr, 2024, 5:45 pm [email protected], <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> A photo of a patch of Lambs lettuce / Corn salad (*V.locusta*} self sown >> from seeds fallen from the plants whose photo I had posted last year >> photographed on 2nd April. At this stage they were ideal for use as a >> salad. Today (11th April) they have started flowering. As in early spring >> fields in Kashmir valley lie fallow it can be introduced as a profitable >> crop in Kashmir. Unfortunately the seeds are not available in India. When I >> found Lamb's Lettuce seeds advertised on Amazon I placed an order and >> received lettuce seeds instead. Again I found Corn Salad advertised on >> Flipkart but received Corn(Maize) seeds instead. I would request the >> agriculture department of the UT to import the seeds and start its >> cultivation here as the climate is ideal for its cultivation here and it >> could be a valuable exotic plant. I tasted the leaves and found they have a >> slight mucilaginous texture very different from that of ordinary salads >> like lettuce >> >> On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 8:48:28 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> As* V.locusta *has been reported only from Srinagar first by Gurcharan >>> ji and then by me in my post and as it is a popular salad in Europe I think >>> that plants in Srinagar could have been introduced by British officers >>> during British rule especially those with a taste for French cuisine where >>> it is served under the name *Doucette *and* Raiponce.* >>> Regards >>> Taffazull >>> >>> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 12:39:18 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>> >>>> Surprising *Valerianella locusta *is not listed in the area as per POWO >>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:859937-1> >>>> and CoL >>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/59b0f85b5f385d6a4372a523c76aa621> >>>> . >>>> However, BSI >>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/speciesList_PCL.action?resultType=genusWise&parent_Id=29083&parent_Name=valerianella> >>>> >>>> lists this species along with 3 others. >>>> Pl. see and analyse. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 15:18, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Am attaching an1885 illustration of the plant which is in the public >>>>> domain and which is very helpful. >>>>> *Attribution:* Public Domain, >>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8666 >>>>> Regards >>>>> Taffazull >>>>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:15:49 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Some interesting facts from a Wikipedia article about this herb: >>>>>> Its common European names are *lamb's lettuce, common cornsalad, *or >>>>>> simply *cornsalad, mâche (/mɑːʃ/), fetticus, feldsalat, nut lettuce, >>>>>> field salad and valerian salad. *In restaurants that feature *French >>>>>> cuisine*, it may be called *doucette *or *raiponce*.In some areas in >>>>>> Germany it is called *Rapunzel *and is the origin of the long haired >>>>>> lady's name in the famous fairy tale. >>>>>> Regarding its use as a vegetable it is written that: >>>>>> "*It has been eaten in Britain for centuries and appears in John >>>>>> Gerard's Herbal of 1597. It was grown commercially in London from the >>>>>> late >>>>>> 18th or early 19th century and appeared on markets as a winter >>>>>> vegetable, >>>>>> but it only became available in modern supermarkets there in the 1980s. >>>>>> American president Thomas Jefferson cultivated mâche at his home.*" >>>>>> Maybe the plants were introduced in Srinagar during British rule. >>>>>> Its cultivation and promotion as an exotic vegetable can be an >>>>>> attractive proposition for enterprising entrepreneurs in Kashmir. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:28:32 AM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Gurcharan ji!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jun, 2023, 10:47 am [email protected], < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji, >>>>>>>> Thanks for the correct I.D. and the attached paper. >>>>>>>> It is surely * Valerianella locusta *and not valerian. >>>>>>>> Hope the photos add to efloraofindia collection as I did not find >>>>>>>> any photos there. >>>>>>>> The calyx lobes in ripe fruit(photo attached) have a single tooth. >>>>>>>> With sincere regards >>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 8:22:29 AM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not Valeriana rather Valerianella. Check for V. locusta, I had >>>>>>>>> recorded it as new record in India in 1974, paper attached. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 10:12:39 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Shakir ji, >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the ID. >>>>>>>>>> However according to Wikipedia Valerians have trifoliate pinnate >>>>>>>>>> leaves with serrated edges but here leaves are entire .Veins are not >>>>>>>>>> prominent (very different from leaves in *V.himalayana *photo at >>>>>>>>>> EFI). Also branching appears to be dichotomous (See attached >>>>>>>>>> photo).Also >>>>>>>>>> altitude of Rawathpora is about1600 meters while *V.himalayana >>>>>>>>>> *according to FOP occurs at 3000-5000m asl. Perhaps >>>>>>>>>> identification of the species would bring more clarity. >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 10:30:00 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Valeriana sp. >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:14:41 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>>>>> Please help ID this herb which has some peculiar features as >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned below: >>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Edge of lawn in Rawathpora Srinagar. Almost all photos >>>>>>>>>>>> were taken in either the last week of April or first half of May >>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Herb with green stem 10-15 cm high. L eaves opposite >>>>>>>>>>>> about 5-6mm broad X 12 -15mm long. >>>>>>>>>>>> Branching cymose. Inflorescence is compact and probably cymose >>>>>>>>>>>> Some peculiar features: >>>>>>>>>>>> 1.Calyx gamosepalous with five lobes three narrow 0.5mmX 1.5mm >>>>>>>>>>>> and two broad 0.5mm X1.5 mm. The calyx is fused with the ovary and >>>>>>>>>>>> can not >>>>>>>>>>>> be separated from it. The lobes can be clearly seen in fruit( See >>>>>>>>>>>> photo 5 >>>>>>>>>>>> and photo8). >>>>>>>>>>>> 2.The Corolla has 5 lobes 0.5mm long and Corolla Tube is 1.5mm >>>>>>>>>>>> long and becomes very narrow at the bottom and seems to be >>>>>>>>>>>> attached >>>>>>>>>>>> directly to upper part of the ovary . In my limited experience >>>>>>>>>>>> this is the >>>>>>>>>>>> first time I have seen a corolla tube attached to the upper part >>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>> ovary.( (See photo 4,photo 5 and photo 6) >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The style is so thin and transparent that it is barely >>>>>>>>>>>> visible but when see seen with a microscope(X50) is clearly trifid >>>>>>>>>>>> (See >>>>>>>>>>>> photo 7). The filaments of the 5 stamens are also very thin, >>>>>>>>>>>> transparent >>>>>>>>>>>> and barely visible. Because of the narrowness of the corolla tube >>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>> lower portion I could not ascertain the point of attachment of the >>>>>>>>>>>> stamens. >>>>>>>>>>>> The fruit seems to contain a single seed.(see photo 9) >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>> the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/fjWj_Eqav0U/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2f6a5f48-b5e9-411c-89f1-999833416e6fn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2f6a5f48-b5e9-411c-89f1-999833416e6fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8df45ee8-6727-41da-b4cc-c57a5e48f448n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8df45ee8-6727-41da-b4cc-c57a5e48f448n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/fjWj_Eqav0U/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8ff4e6f6-198e-4fd2-9bd3-044147e01747n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/8ff4e6f6-198e-4fd2-9bd3-044147e01747n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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