Nice collection.... Thank you taffazul ji

On Fri, 12 Apr, 2024, 5:18 pm [email protected], <[email protected]>
wrote:

> As requested by Shakir Ji am posting photos of plants in bloom. The plants
> are in bloom much sooner than I anticipated. For more details see my last
> years post.
> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 5:59:13 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad wrote:
>
>> Okk sir... Thank you🌹
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Apr, 2024, 5:56 pm [email protected], <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Shakir Ji,
>>> Had posted photos of flowers last year in my main post where you can see
>>> them.
>>> Will post them again when the plants are in full bloom.
>>> I think will take a week or two.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 5:48:59 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kindly share photos in flowering
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr, 2024, 5:45 pm [email protected], <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A photo of a patch of Lambs lettuce / Corn salad (*V.locusta*} self
>>>>> sown from seeds fallen from the plants whose photo I had posted last year
>>>>> photographed on 2nd April. At this stage they were ideal for use as a
>>>>> salad. Today (11th April) they have started flowering. As in early spring
>>>>> fields in Kashmir valley lie fallow it can be introduced as a profitable
>>>>> crop in Kashmir. Unfortunately the seeds are not available in India. When 
>>>>> I
>>>>> found Lamb's Lettuce seeds advertised on Amazon I placed an order and
>>>>> received lettuce seeds instead. Again I found Corn Salad advertised on
>>>>> Flipkart but received Corn(Maize) seeds instead. I would request the
>>>>> agriculture department of the UT to import the seeds and start its
>>>>> cultivation here as the climate is ideal for its cultivation here and it
>>>>> could be a valuable exotic plant. I tasted the leaves and found they have 
>>>>> a
>>>>> slight mucilaginous texture very different from that of ordinary salads
>>>>> like lettuce
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 8:48:28 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As* V.locusta *has been reported only from Srinagar  first by
>>>>>> Gurcharan ji and then by me in my post and as it is a popular salad in
>>>>>> Europe I think that plants in Srinagar could have been introduced by
>>>>>> British officers during British rule especially those with a taste for
>>>>>> French cuisine where it is  served under the name *Doucette *and*
>>>>>> Raiponce.*
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 12:39:18 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Surprising *Valerianella locusta *is not listed in the area as per
>>>>>>> POWO
>>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:859937-1>
>>>>>>> and CoL
>>>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/59b0f85b5f385d6a4372a523c76aa621>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> However, BSI
>>>>>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/speciesList_PCL.action?resultType=genusWise&parent_Id=29083&parent_Name=valerianella>
>>>>>>> lists this species along with 3 others.
>>>>>>> Pl. see and analyse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 15:18, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am attaching an1885 illustration of the plant which is in the
>>>>>>>> public domain and which is very helpful.
>>>>>>>> *Attribution:* Public Domain,
>>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8666
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:15:49 PM UTC+5:30
>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some interesting facts from a Wikipedia article about this herb:
>>>>>>>>> Its common European names are *lamb's lettuce, common cornsalad, *or
>>>>>>>>> simply *cornsalad, mâche (/mɑːʃ/), fetticus, feldsalat, nut
>>>>>>>>> lettuce, field salad and valerian salad. *In restaurants that
>>>>>>>>> feature *French cuisine*, it may be called *doucette *or
>>>>>>>>> *raiponce*.In some areas in Germany it is called *Rapunzel *and
>>>>>>>>> is the origin of the long haired lady's name in the famous fairy tale.
>>>>>>>>> Regarding its use as a vegetable it is written that:
>>>>>>>>> "*It has been eaten in Britain for centuries and appears in John
>>>>>>>>> Gerard's Herbal of 1597. It was grown commercially in London from the 
>>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>>> 18th or early 19th century and appeared on markets as a winter 
>>>>>>>>> vegetable,
>>>>>>>>> but it only became available in modern supermarkets there in the 
>>>>>>>>> 1980s.
>>>>>>>>> American president Thomas Jefferson cultivated mâche at his home.*
>>>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>>> Maybe the plants were introduced in Srinagar during British rule.
>>>>>>>>> Its cultivation and promotion as an exotic vegetable can be an
>>>>>>>>> attractive proposition for enterprising entrepreneurs in Kashmir.
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 11:28:32 AM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Gurcharan ji!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jun, 2023, 10:47 am [email protected], <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji,
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the correct I.D. and the attached paper.
>>>>>>>>>>> It is surely * Valerianella  locusta *and not valerian.
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope the photos add to efloraofindia collection as I did not
>>>>>>>>>>> find any photos there.
>>>>>>>>>>> The calyx lobes in ripe fruit(photo attached) have a single
>>>>>>>>>>> tooth.
>>>>>>>>>>> With sincere regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 8:22:29 AM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not Valeriana rather Valerianella. Check for V. locusta, I had
>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded it as new record in India in 1974, paper attached.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 10:12:39 AM UTC+5:30
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Shakir ji,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the ID.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However  according to Wikipedia Valerians have trifoliate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pinnate leaves with serrated edges but here leaves are entire 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .Veins are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not prominent (very different from leaves in *V.himalayana *photo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at EFI). Also branching appears to be dichotomous (See attached 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo).Also
>>>>>>>>>>>>> altitude of Rawathpora is about1600 meters  while *V.himalayana
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *according to FOP occurs at 3000-5000m asl. Perhaps
>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification of the species would bring more clarity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 10:30:00 PM UTC+5:30 Shakir Ahmad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valeriana sp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:14:41 PM UTC+5:30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please help ID this herb which has some peculiar features as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned below:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Edge of lawn in Rawathpora Srinagar. Almost all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photos were taken in either the last week of April or first 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half of May
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Herb with green stem 10-15 cm high. L eaves opposite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 5-6mm broad X 12 -15mm long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Branching cymose. Inflorescence is compact and probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cymose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some peculiar features:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.Calyx gamosepalous with five lobes three narrow 0.5mmX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mm and two broad 0.5mm X1.5 mm. The calyx is fused with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ovary and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can not be separated from it. The lobes can be clearly seen in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit( See
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo 5 and photo8).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.The Corolla has 5 lobes 0.5mm long and Corolla Tube is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mm long and becomes very narrow at the bottom and seems to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be attached
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly to upper part of the ovary . In my limited experience 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first time I have seen a corolla tube attached to the upper 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ovary.( (See photo 4,photo 5 and photo 6)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The style is so thin and transparent that it is barely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible but when see seen with a microscope(X50) is clearly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trifid (See
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo 7). The filaments of the 5 stamens are also very thin, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and barely visible. Because of the narrowness of the corolla 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tube in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lower portion I could not ascertain the point of attachment of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the stamens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fruit seems to contain a single seed.(see photo 9)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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