Dear Gurcharan ji, Many thanks for confirmation. Photos of flowers which I have posted are very different from those of C.australis and led me to suspect that it is a different species which was confirmed from the list of Kashmiri names of plants that you had posted. Regards Taffazull
On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 10:51:59 AM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Taffazul ji > Celtis australis Linn. which was once considered to be widely distributed > and reported from India also in FBI and Brandis is now considered > distributed in mostly Europe, > and as such C. australis of Indian Authors incl FBI, Brandis i.e. Auct. > (Non Linn.) distributed in Himalayas, Pakistan, Afhanistan etc. is > correctly C. caucasica Willd. > > On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 6:18:29 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: > >> Gurcharan Ji in the list of Kashmiri names posted on this site has >> identified *Brimij *as *Celtis caucasica.* >> So I would take this plant to be *C.caucasica.* >> I could not locate a photo of the flower of* C.caucasica *on the net by >> google search. >> I hope the photo of flowers posted by me will be useful in this regard. >> Regards >> Taffazull >> >> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 4:07:05 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> One more photo showing about 1cm long stipules and petioles of same >>> length >>> >>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 4:51:51 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Photo of flower of *C.Australis* from illustration in Public Domain >>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8509 for comparison. >>>> >>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:58:51 AM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some photos of leaves >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 11:13:46 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Garg ji, >>>>>> In my plant flowers are perfect(the male and female flowers are not >>>>>> separate). Also the leaves are serrated almost to the base as in >>>>>> C.Australis. A look at the photos will make it clear.I think those who >>>>>> identified it as C.australis did it on the basis of the leaves. >>>>>> It is interesting that Marathi name Bramuj is very similar to the >>>>>> Kàshmiri name Bramij. Celtis genus is an interesting genus and some >>>>>> scholars have identified Lotos tree of greek mythology made famous by >>>>>> Tennyson as Celtis australis. >>>>>> In Kashmir Brimij is planted in graveyards and shrines attesting to >>>>>> some now forgotten mythology.associated with the tree. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:15:54 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Pl. see >>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2014/04/09/celtis-tetrandra/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 at 11:20, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just to clarify that photos of flowers were taken in March 2023 and >>>>>>>> not April 2023 >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 7:11:57 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>> Am posting photos of a tree which has been identified as *Celtis >>>>>>>>> australis* previously but I think the ID is not correct as it has >>>>>>>>> green stamens (see photo) while *C.australis* has yellow stamens. >>>>>>>>> It is called *Brimij* in Kashmiri and is often planted in >>>>>>>>> graveyards. Its wood was used in olden days for making yokes of >>>>>>>>> ploughs as >>>>>>>>> it is soft and cool (Lawrence). >>>>>>>>> Please help ID the correct species. >>>>>>>>> The photo of tree was taken in Nov23. The photos of flowers were >>>>>>>>> taken in April 23 (it flowers before the leaves appear.). The photo >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> leaf was taken in April 2024 . All photos under CC licence >>>>>>>>> (Attribution >>>>>>>>> only) >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/5df4abce-3127-4695-a881-642d6919931fn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/5df4abce-3127-4695-a881-642d6919931fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/9eebdfa3-e989-495f-8b82-6d0dc9ee2659n%40googlegroups.com.
