In view of the detailed discussions and descriptions in eFloras, I think it should be *Lactuca indica* only.
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 at 13:19, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Gurcharan ji, > Thanks for your kind interest. Somehow I did not receive your email > I am not an alumnus of KU > Regarding the plant the leaves are 4-5 cm broad. Margins are entire but > base has two toothed wings.(See photo) > Achenes are white with 8 or more ribs. Beak is less than 1 mm long (See > Photo) > (All photos in this post are under CC License ;Attribution only required) > Am grateful for your kind help in identifying this herb. > Sincere regards > Taffazull > > > > On Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 6:10:24 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote: > >> Sorry Taffazul ji, I thought veins are prickly beneath >> Please look for these characters >> 1. leaves entire or rarely toothed, less than 1 cm broad in L. indica, at >> least lower runcinate-pinnatifid with spinulose margin and midrib beneath >> in L. serriola >> 2. Leaves not clasping or weekly clasping at base L. indica, distinctly >> clasping in L. serriola >> 3. Achene beak less than 2 mm long L. indica, 3.5-5 mm long in L. serriola >> 4. Achene bodyl winged with one prominent rib on either side in L. >> indica, not winged with 7-9 ribs on either side in L. serriola >> >> If it really turns out to be L. indica, It may be a new Record for >> Kashmir, the species occurs between >> Please compare with these links >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200024114 >> https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=6256&type=4 >> and for serriola >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242328083 >> https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=6258&type=4 >> >> Please note that L. indica looks very similar to L. dolichophylla (syn: >> L. longifolia DC of FBI) in which florets are blue and also as FBI writes: >> Habit of L. Iongifolia and as tall, but the leaves are never pinnatifid >> and want the sagittate base ; the achenes are quite different, very flat, >> black, \ in. long, includ ing the beak, with one strong median rib on each >> face and 4 more slender lateral ones on each side of the dorsal face; the >> base of the beak is black in this (white in Ionat' J'olia); the pappus is >> dirty-white or yellowish. Ligules pale yellow within, purplish outside in >> Assam (Griffith), sulphur yellow in China (Ilance in litt.). >> >> Wish you best of luck >> >> I had written you privately but did not get response. I wanter to know if >> you have done Botany M.Sc. from Kashmir University, and if so need your >> WhatsApp number to add you to our Alumni Group. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:48 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> According to a local villager Mr.Anwar its Kashmiri name is* Doodich >>> Ghas *literally meaning grass with milk. >>> This is exactly what *Lactuca *means in Latin. >>> Regards >>> Taffazull >>> On Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 4:45:47 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Gurcharan Ji, >>>> Thanks for clarifying >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> On Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 4:41:44 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry Taffazul ji, I thought there are prickles on the midrib, >>>>> Look for Lactuca sativa, the wild form. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:01 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Gucharan ji, >>>>>> Thanks for ID >>>>>> It is interesting that not only leaves are undivided but spines on >>>>>> midrib are also absent. >>>>>> I was under the misconception that spines on midrib are a >>>>>> characteristic of L .serriola. >>>>>> Thanks for clarifying >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 12:26:33 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think L. serriola only, leaves can be undivided sometimes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121239&flora_id=2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, August 5, 2024 at 4:19:36 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Outer phyllary is 3mm ,middle about 5mm and inner about 7mm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c6d1dc41-0eab-410b-a8d6-10640a86e661n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/c6d1dc41-0eab-410b-a8d6-10640a86e661n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ea39ff54-181c-4255-9fb3-4d7561dab79en%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ea39ff54-181c-4255-9fb3-4d7561dab79en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/507532d1-42bc-4192-a558-2ef0e67004a0n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/507532d1-42bc-4192-a558-2ef0e67004a0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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