POWO <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77135753-1>
and CoL
<https://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/187d9fa5716a17e72177684efadcff6a>
does not give distribution of *Craterostigma nummulariifolium* (D.Don)
Eb.Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. outside Africa.

On Thu, 26 Sept 2024 at 16:22, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:

> The distribution given at various sites should not be taken at face value
> because a distribution of a locality may get added because it was treated
> as a synonym of another species. Even when the naming is fixed, the
> distribution does not get automatically fixed.
> The plant with purple upper-lip flowers is found in the Himalayas and also
> Maharashtra, as the posts on eFI show. However no one has yet posted a
> plant with brown upper-lip flowers on eFI. So my guess is that it might be
> confined to Southern Western Ghats and probably China and SE Asia.
> The Keralaplants page for Lindernia sessiliflora
> <http://www.keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Lindernia_sessiliflora>
> also mentions a brown upper lip.
>    Tabish
> -------------------------------------------
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>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 4:03 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Tabish Ji,
>>
>> That means Nepal does not have *Craterostigma sessiliflorum *(Benth.)
>> Y.S.Liang & J.C.Wang though
>> some of the databases showing its distribution in Nepal maybe because of
>> the identification
>> confusion. Also the latest book by KK shrestha et all also do not have
>> this sp. for Nepal.
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 4:04 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Tabish for your clarification. It seems all images on the net
>>> are random.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 3:54 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have attached the key to the species provided by the paper
>>>> Phytotaxa 247 (2): 148–150 (2016), "New combinations in Craterostigma
>>>> and Torenia (Linderniaceae) from Asia with key to allied species."
>>>> The bottom-line of the paper is,
>>>> "Craterostigma sessiliflorum differs from C. nummulariifolium by its
>>>> creeping habit (vs. erect), sessile flowers (vs. sessile to pedunculate),
>>>> and pale brown corolla dorsal lip (vs. purplish)"
>>>> In this light, Saroj's plant (and all similar plants posted on eFI)
>>>> belong to Craterostigma nummulariifolium.
>>>> Two observations of what should be Craterostigma sessiliflorum, both
>>>> from Kerala, are here (although wrongly labeled presently):
>>>>   https://indiabiodiversity.org/observation/show/15517928
>>>>   https://indiabiodiversity.org/observation/show/380256
>>>>   Tabish
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: J.M. Garg <Unknown>
>>>> Date: Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 1:10:19 PM UTC+5:30
>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:331044] Re: Craterostigma nummulariifolium
>>>> (D.Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll.
>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <Unknown>
>>>> Cc: efloraindia <Unknown>, Paradesi Anjaneyulu <Unknown>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji.
>>>> But what surprised me is that Catalogue of Life gives distribution of 
>>>> *Craterostigma
>>>> nummulariifolium *(D. Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll.
>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/187d9fa5716a17e72177684efadcff6a>
>>>>  (syn:
>>>> *Lindernia nummularifolia* (D. Don) Wettst.) as Senegal, Sierra Leone,
>>>> Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Gabon, Sudan,
>>>> South Sudan, Ethiopia, D.R. Congo (Zaire), Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda, Kenya,
>>>> Tanzania, Angola, Zambia, Malawi, Zimbabwe, Madagascar, Society Isl. (I)
>>>> (Tahiti (I)), Fiji (I).
>>>> That sent me on the hunt for correct id of our plant.
>>>>
>>>> Pl. see *Lindernia nummulariifolia *(D.Don) Wettst., *Nat.
>>>> Pflanzenfam. 4(3b): 80 1891*. (syn: *Vandellia nummulariifolia* D.
>>>> Don, Prodr. Fl. Nepal. 86. 1825; *Lindernia sessiliflora* (Bentham)
>>>> Wettstein; *Vandellia chinensis* T. Yamazaki; *V*. *sessiliflora*
>>>> Bentham.) as per Flora of China
>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210001036>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Checklist of Nepal
>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200020729>
>>>> only gives *Lindernia nummularifolia* (D. Don) Wettst. without any
>>>> synonyms and distribution as 900-2900 m; Himalaya (Kashmir to Sikkim),
>>>> India, Ceylon, Burma, W. & C. China.
>>>>
>>>> Taxonomic Revision of Lindernia All. (Scrophulariaceae sensu lato) In
>>>> Taiwan
>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264286683_Taxonomic_Revision_of_Lindernia_All_Scrophulariaceae_sensu_lato_In_Taiwan>
>>>>  (2012)
>>>> gives only *Lindernia nummulariifolia *(D.Don) Wettst., *Nat.
>>>> Pflanzenfam. 4(3b): 80 1891*. (syn: *Vandellia nummulariifolia* D.
>>>> Don) with distribution as India, Nepal, Burma, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia,
>>>> W. and C. China, Madagascar, Taiwan in wet meadows in south (Pingtung
>>>> County)
>>>>
>>>> What about *Lindernia sessiliflora* (Bentham) Wettstein given in Flora
>>>> of China
>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210001036> as
>>>> it is not mentioned in *Craterostigma nummulariifolium *(D. Don) Eb.
>>>> Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll.
>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/187d9fa5716a17e72177684efadcff6a>
>>>>  in
>>>> Catalogue of Life. Catalogue of life gives this as a syn. of *Craterostigma
>>>> sessiliflorum *(Benth.) Y. S. Liang & J. C. Wang
>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/ed728792122deccb919238a7717d189c/synonym/ef9cad63637cd46d88382d5098e10b64>with
>>>> distribution as China (Gansu, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hubei, Hunan, Jiangxi,
>>>> Shaanxi, Sichuan, Yunnan, Zhejiang), Tibet, Myanmar [Burma], *Nepal*,
>>>> Thailand, Vietnam, peninsular Malaysia (Melaka), Singapore (I), Java, 
>>>> *India,
>>>> Darjeeling, Sikkim, Sri Lanka, Pakistan (Murree, Rawalpindi), Jammu &
>>>> Kashmir (Poonch).*
>>>>
>>>> Thus, plant in our area may be *Craterostigma sessiliflorum *(Benth.)
>>>> Y. S. Liang & J. C. Wang
>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/ed728792122deccb919238a7717d189c/synonym/ef9cad63637cd46d88382d5098e10b64>with
>>>> distribution as China (Gansu, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hubei, Hunan, Jiangxi,
>>>> Shaanxi, Sichuan, Yunnan, Zhejiang), Tibet, Myanmar [Burma], *Nepal*,
>>>> Thailand, Vietnam, peninsular Malaysia (Melaka), Singapore (I), Java, 
>>>> *India,
>>>> Darjeeling, Sikkim, Sri Lanka, Pakistan (Murree, Rawalpindi), Jammu &
>>>> Kashmir (Poonch).*
>>>> This may be due to some recent taxonomic revisions etc. On searching,
>>>> I found  New combinations in *Craterostigma* and *Torenia*
>>>> (Linderniaceae) from Asia with key to allied species
>>>> <https://biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.247.2.8>
>>>> Phytotaxa Vol 247, No 2 (2016) by *YI-SHUO LIANG, JENN-CHE WANG *(Abstract-
>>>> Traditionally, *Lindernia* *s.l.* Allioni (1766: 178) was the largest
>>>> genus within Linderniaceae, with about 100 species, including members of
>>>> *Bonnaya* Link & Otto (1820: 25), *Ilysanthes* Rafinesque (1820: 13),
>>>> and *Vandellia* Linnaeus (1767: 384) (Pennell 1935, Rahmanzadeh *et
>>>> al.* 2005). This concept (Pennell 1935) was adopted by subsequent
>>>> taxonomists (e.g., Philcox 1968, Tsoong & Ku 1979, Yamazaki 1981, Fischer
>>>> 1992, Lewis 2000, Liang *et al.* 2012) until Fischer *et al.* (2013),
>>>> based on molecular and morphological evidence, proposed a more restrict
>>>> circumscription of *Lindernia s.str.*, separated from *Bonnaya*,
>>>> *Vandellia*, *Craterostigma* Hochstetter (1841: 668), *Crepidorhopalon*
>>>> Fischer (1989: 443), *Torenia* Linnaeus (1753: 619), and the new genus
>>>> *Linderniella* Fischer *et al.* (2013: 227)). But one has to log in to
>>>> see the details.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 09:36, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D.Don) Eb.Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll.
>>>> <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77135753-1>
>>>> Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D. Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai
>>>> Müll.
>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/187d9fa5716a17e72177684efadcff6a>
>>>> Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D.Don) Eb.Fisch., Schäferh
>>>> ...https://www.gbif.org › species
>>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwji38fl0fLkAhXBIbcAHX8vCGYQFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gbif.org%2Fspecies%2F7648981&usg=AOvVaw3lGJvZCzeZtr-4_jn5uRVY>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 1:45 AM Paradesi Anjaneyulu <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is it an accepted name? Saroj JI,
>>>> With kind regards.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 22:55, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:58 PM ushadi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> wonderful
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Ushadi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:30 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:43 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Members
>>>>
>>>> Location: Gyaneswor, Kathmandu
>>>> Date: 14 September  2019
>>>> Elevation: 1300 m.
>>>> Habitat : Wild
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
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