POWO <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77135753-1> has taken a decision in this regard after following many publications *as given the references herein*, which are not accessible to us.
On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 at 12:27, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually, POWO is also not 100 % correct, neither are any of the > databases. I have seen many discrepancies > with POWO for many sps. having distribution in Nepal which are not > included in the POWO and some sps. > which are not having distribution in Nepal showing distribution for Nepal. > Likewise, GBIF also has many discrepancies. Images of many sps. are > wrongly posted with different ID pages > and I have informed them for corrections. But they replied that it is the > responsibility of the person / institution who > has uploaded the images. > > By the way, Nepal has only one *Craterostigma *nummulariifolium (D.Don) > Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. , and not the > *Craterostigma sessiliflorum *(Benth.) Y.S.Liang & J.C.Wang .(Sofar) > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200020729 > https://www.gbif.org/species/7648981 > https://www.catalogueoflife.org/data/taxon/Z94L > Enclosed Screen shots from the WP and Book by KK shrestha et all. > > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 12:19 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> POWO >> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77135753-1> >> and CoL >> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/187d9fa5716a17e72177684efadcff6a> >> does not give distribution of *Craterostigma nummulariifolium* (D.Don) >> Eb.Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. outside Africa. >> >> On Thu, 26 Sept 2024 at 16:22, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The distribution given at various sites should not be taken at face >>> value because a distribution of a locality may get added because it was >>> treated as a synonym of another species. Even when the naming is fixed, the >>> distribution does not get automatically fixed. >>> The plant with purple upper-lip flowers is found in the Himalayas and >>> also Maharashtra, as the posts on eFI show. However no one has yet posted a >>> plant with brown upper-lip flowers on eFI. So my guess is that it might be >>> confined to Southern Western Ghats and probably China and SE Asia. >>> The Keralaplants page for Lindernia sessiliflora >>> <http://www.keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Lindernia_sessiliflora> >>> also mentions a brown upper lip. >>> Tabish >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 4:03 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Tabish Ji, >>>> >>>> That means Nepal does not have *Craterostigma sessiliflorum *(Benth.) >>>> Y.S.Liang & J.C.Wang though >>>> some of the databases showing its distribution in Nepal maybe because >>>> of the identification >>>> confusion. Also the latest book by KK shrestha et all also do not have >>>> this sp. for Nepal. >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 4:04 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Tabish for your clarification. It seems all images on the >>>>> net are random. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 3:54 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have attached the key to the species provided by the paper >>>>>> Phytotaxa 247 (2): 148–150 (2016), "New combinations in Craterostigma >>>>>> and Torenia (Linderniaceae) from Asia with key to allied species." >>>>>> The bottom-line of the paper is, >>>>>> "Craterostigma sessiliflorum differs from C. nummulariifolium by its >>>>>> creeping habit (vs. erect), sessile flowers (vs. sessile to pedunculate), >>>>>> and pale brown corolla dorsal lip (vs. purplish)" >>>>>> In this light, Saroj's plant (and all similar plants posted on eFI) >>>>>> belong to Craterostigma nummulariifolium. >>>>>> Two observations of what should be Craterostigma sessiliflorum, both >>>>>> from Kerala, are here (although wrongly labeled presently): >>>>>> https://indiabiodiversity.org/observation/show/15517928 >>>>>> https://indiabiodiversity.org/observation/show/380256 >>>>>> Tabish >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <Unknown> >>>>>> Date: Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 1:10:19 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:331044] Re: Craterostigma >>>>>> nummulariifolium (D.Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. >>>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <Unknown> >>>>>> Cc: efloraindia <Unknown>, Paradesi Anjaneyulu <Unknown> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji. >>>>>> But what surprised me is that Catalogue of Life gives distribution of >>>>>> *Craterostigma >>>>>> nummulariifolium *(D. Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. >>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/187d9fa5716a17e72177684efadcff6a> >>>>>> (syn: >>>>>> *Lindernia nummularifolia* (D. Don) Wettst.) as Senegal, Sierra >>>>>> Leone, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Gabon, >>>>>> Sudan, South Sudan, Ethiopia, D.R. Congo (Zaire), Rwanda, Burundi, >>>>>> Uganda, >>>>>> Kenya, Tanzania, Angola, Zambia, Malawi, Zimbabwe, Madagascar, Society >>>>>> Isl. >>>>>> (I) (Tahiti (I)), Fiji (I). >>>>>> That sent me on the hunt for correct id of our plant. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pl. see *Lindernia nummulariifolia *(D.Don) Wettst., *Nat. >>>>>> Pflanzenfam. 4(3b): 80 1891*. (syn: *Vandellia nummulariifolia* D. >>>>>> Don, Prodr. Fl. Nepal. 86. 1825; *Lindernia sessiliflora* (Bentham) >>>>>> Wettstein; *Vandellia chinensis* T. Yamazaki; *V*. *sessiliflora* >>>>>> Bentham.) as per Flora of China >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210001036>. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Checklist of Nepal >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200020729> >>>>>> only gives *Lindernia nummularifolia* (D. Don) Wettst. without any >>>>>> synonyms and distribution as 900-2900 m; Himalaya (Kashmir to Sikkim), >>>>>> India, Ceylon, Burma, W. & C. China. >>>>>> >>>>>> Taxonomic Revision of Lindernia All. (Scrophulariaceae sensu lato) In >>>>>> Taiwan >>>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264286683_Taxonomic_Revision_of_Lindernia_All_Scrophulariaceae_sensu_lato_In_Taiwan> >>>>>> (2012) >>>>>> gives only *Lindernia nummulariifolia *(D.Don) Wettst., *Nat. >>>>>> Pflanzenfam. 4(3b): 80 1891*. (syn: *Vandellia nummulariifolia* D. >>>>>> Don) with distribution as India, Nepal, Burma, Thailand, Vietnam, >>>>>> Malaysia, >>>>>> W. and C. China, Madagascar, Taiwan in wet meadows in south (Pingtung >>>>>> County) >>>>>> >>>>>> What about *Lindernia sessiliflora* (Bentham) Wettstein given in Flora >>>>>> of China >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210001036> as >>>>>> it is not mentioned in *Craterostigma nummulariifolium *(D. Don) Eb. >>>>>> Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. >>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/187d9fa5716a17e72177684efadcff6a> >>>>>> in >>>>>> Catalogue of Life. Catalogue of life gives this as a syn. of >>>>>> *Craterostigma >>>>>> sessiliflorum *(Benth.) Y. S. Liang & J. C. Wang >>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/ed728792122deccb919238a7717d189c/synonym/ef9cad63637cd46d88382d5098e10b64>with >>>>>> distribution as China (Gansu, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hubei, Hunan, >>>>>> Jiangxi, Shaanxi, Sichuan, Yunnan, Zhejiang), Tibet, Myanmar [Burma], >>>>>> *Nepal*, Thailand, Vietnam, peninsular Malaysia (Melaka), Singapore >>>>>> (I), Java, *India, Darjeeling, Sikkim, Sri Lanka, Pakistan (Murree, >>>>>> Rawalpindi), Jammu & Kashmir (Poonch).* >>>>>> >>>>>> Thus, plant in our area may be *Craterostigma sessiliflorum *(Benth.) >>>>>> Y. S. Liang & J. C. Wang >>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/ed728792122deccb919238a7717d189c/synonym/ef9cad63637cd46d88382d5098e10b64>with >>>>>> distribution as China (Gansu, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hubei, Hunan, >>>>>> Jiangxi, Shaanxi, Sichuan, Yunnan, Zhejiang), Tibet, Myanmar [Burma], >>>>>> *Nepal*, Thailand, Vietnam, peninsular Malaysia (Melaka), Singapore >>>>>> (I), Java, *India, Darjeeling, Sikkim, Sri Lanka, Pakistan (Murree, >>>>>> Rawalpindi), Jammu & Kashmir (Poonch).* >>>>>> This may be due to some recent taxonomic revisions etc. On >>>>>> searching, I found New combinations in *Craterostigma* and *Torenia* >>>>>> (Linderniaceae) from Asia with key to allied species >>>>>> <https://biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.247.2.8> >>>>>> Phytotaxa Vol 247, No 2 (2016) by *YI-SHUO LIANG, JENN-CHE WANG >>>>>> *(Abstract- >>>>>> Traditionally, *Lindernia* *s.l.* Allioni (1766: 178) was the >>>>>> largest genus within Linderniaceae, with about 100 species, including >>>>>> members of *Bonnaya* Link & Otto (1820: 25), *Ilysanthes* Rafinesque >>>>>> (1820: 13), and *Vandellia* Linnaeus (1767: 384) (Pennell 1935, >>>>>> Rahmanzadeh *et al.* 2005). This concept (Pennell 1935) was adopted >>>>>> by subsequent taxonomists (e.g., Philcox 1968, Tsoong & Ku 1979, Yamazaki >>>>>> 1981, Fischer 1992, Lewis 2000, Liang *et al.* 2012) until Fischer *et >>>>>> al.* (2013), based on molecular and morphological evidence, proposed >>>>>> a more restrict circumscription of *Lindernia s.str.*, separated >>>>>> from *Bonnaya*, *Vandellia*, *Craterostigma* Hochstetter (1841: >>>>>> 668), *Crepidorhopalon* Fischer (1989: 443), *Torenia* Linnaeus >>>>>> (1753: 619), and the new genus *Linderniella* Fischer *et al.* >>>>>> (2013: 227)). But one has to log in to see the details. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 09:36, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D.Don) Eb.Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai >>>>>> Müll. >>>>>> <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77135753-1> >>>>>> Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D. Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai >>>>>> Müll. >>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/187d9fa5716a17e72177684efadcff6a> >>>>>> Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D.Don) Eb.Fisch., Schäferh >>>>>> ...https://www.gbif.org › species >>>>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwji38fl0fLkAhXBIbcAHX8vCGYQFjAAegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gbif.org%2Fspecies%2F7648981&usg=AOvVaw3lGJvZCzeZtr-4_jn5uRVY> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 1:45 AM Paradesi Anjaneyulu < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it an accepted name? Saroj JI, >>>>>> With kind regards. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 22:55, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:58 PM ushadi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> wonderful >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Ushadi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:30 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:43 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Members >>>>>> >>>>>> Location: Gyaneswor, Kathmandu >>>>>> Date: 14 September 2019 >>>>>> Elevation: 1300 m. >>>>>> Habitat : Wild >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytT7Ap6u1dVLZ8gvb%2B%2BoYneShQtp9NUnBmp92jENWZPZog%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytT7Ap6u1dVLZ8gvb%2B%2BoYneShQtp9NUnBmp92jENWZPZog%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CANAwU1W3MBVznqAEiOq%3D%3D8TkJMgkrQ-4J00uScprtCb9KiY7PQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CANAwU1W3MBVznqAEiOq%3D%3D8TkJMgkrQ-4J00uScprtCb9KiY7PQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytTh-UR8%3DGvvHUryaC3-7A-HSKh4dxSrJSvUWrLU9CDQEQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytTh-UR8%3DGvvHUryaC3-7A-HSKh4dxSrJSvUWrLU9CDQEQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAPTGuvH7mTjbaXSsXAhc-7EB6JzRZcxRigLC4tzsyG-a2CmzKA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAPTGuvH7mTjbaXSsXAhc-7EB6JzRZcxRigLC4tzsyG-a2CmzKA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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