OK Sam. Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 10:10 PM Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Saroj ji, > Yes, it is, thank you very much for identifying and sharing ID links. > Kind regards, Sam. > > On Wed, 16 Jul, 2025, 4:38 pm Saroj Kumar Kasaju, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> *Thottea dalzellii *(Hook.fil.) Karthik. & Moorthy is *Thottea >> siliquosa *(Lam.) Ding Hou >> >> https://www.catalogueoflife.org/data/taxon/56L48 >> https://www.gbif.org/species/7904278 >> >> Thank you >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 9:50:02 PM UTC+5:45 >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:468789] 586 ID wild plant Thottea >> To: JM Garg <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>, efloraofindia < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Dear Garg ji, >> Yes, we had a detailed discussion on it. >> Thanks a lot dear Santosh ji. >> With kind regards, Sam. >> >> On Sun, 1 Sept 2024, 9:17 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks a lot, Santhosh ji. >> >> On Sun, 1 Sept 2024 at 21:04, Dr E S Santhosh Kumar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> GargJi, >> We had a long discussion with SamJi regarding the identity. We need to >> study the specimen in detail. As of now, it is not similar to any known >> species of the genus, but occasionally such kind of intermediate and >> natural hybrids are found in this genus. So before coming to a conclusion, >> I suggest SamJi to collect a few samples for a detailed study. >> Similarly, many endemic species of south Indian Thottea are now appearing >> in Sri Lanka also. There was only a single species reported from Sri Lanka, >> ie Thottea siliquosa. But now T.ponmudiana, T.idukkiana, T.sivarajanii, T. >> dalzellii etc are also found there. >> >> The genus Thottea becomes a mess of species owing to several >> intermediate forms making the species delimitation a herculean task for the >> taxonomists. I am working on it now. >> Hope we can conclude the circumscription of several species shortly. >> With kindest regards >> Santhosh >> >> SANTHOSH >> .......................................................................... >> Dr. E S SANTHOSH KUMAR MSc, PhD, FIAT, FABSc, FLS >> *Member: IUCN SSC Western Ghats Plant Specialist Group* >> *Jawaharlal Nehru Tropical Botanic Garden and Research Institute >> (JNTBG&RI),* >> Palode, Karimancode P.O. >> Thiruvananthapuram-695562 >> Kerala, India >> Mobile: +91 8547825373 >> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Santhosh-Es >> www.drsanthosh.wikifoundry.com <http://www.drsanthosh.wetpaint.com> >> ORCID iD:-- https://orcid.org/0000-0003-2677-535X >> Alternate Email id: [email protected] >> >> *Every day’s life is a Gift. Let us use it productively* >> >> >> On Sun, 1 Sept 2024 at 17:10, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> *Thottea siliquosa *(Lam.) Ding Hou ?? >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> It is more close to Thottea dalzellii. >> >> Thank you, Sam. >> This is very interesting. I suppose the presence of several appendages >> below the stigmatic lobes in your first photograph (IMG_3277) would qualify >> this for *Thottea **dalzellii**.* From what I've understood, such >> appendages are either absent or only occasional in *Thottea siliquosa*. >> These two species are closely related and I don't have an extensive grasp >> of all the finer differences between them yet. >> Are all the flowers in your first batch of photographs from the very same >> plant? I'm curious about the arrangement of stamens: *4+4+3 *in the >> first three images as against the more common *3+3+3 *in the last image >> of the partially-open flower (IMG_4853)*.* >> Let's wait for Dr. Santhosh's views. >> Best wishes, Viplav >> >> Thank you very much for the detailed discussions. The first three images >> are of fully opened same flower (IMG 3277, 3276, 3273). Fourth image 4853 >> was captured (available only one image) from nearby plant in 2023, just I >> think it is same as T. idukkiana captured in 7.4.22 from another location. >> With kind regards, Sam. >> Thanks, Sam ji, for the clarification. Though the fourth image (IMG_4853) >> is from a separate individual, it appears to be the same species as the >> first three photographs. The number/arrangement of stamens can vary. >> The tooth-like, pointy appendages (staminodes?) are similar in both the >> specimens. The angle of the fourth photograph is not ideal to view these >> projections but a few are visible nonetheless (marked & attached herewith). >> >> Best wishes, Viplav >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: *Sam Kuzhalanattu* <[email protected]> >> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 at 10:36 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:468789] 586 ID wild plant Thottea >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> Please ID wild plant, kind regards, Sam. >> >> Location: bloomed near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Kerala INDIA >> >> Altitude: 1500fsl >> >> Flower date: 15AUG2024, 02.35pm >> >> Habitat: wild moisture evergreen misty sloppy canopied alpine >> >> Plant habit: big shrub, erect branches, hard woody cylindrical stem 07 >> inches base circumference, rough brownish bark, perennial >> >> Height: 03 meters >> >> Leaves: alternate elongated/elliptic acute simple flexible glossy >> aromatic, size upto: 25×8cm >> >> Flower: axillary buds, 03 tepals, purplish diameter:10mm, tomentose, non >> fragrant >> >> Fruit: lengthy cylindrical beans purplish into brown, ridges >> size:12x0.6cm >> >> Seed: brown upto 10 nos.ovoid angular >> Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDST0boTKE556qbwfk1yQQfrCks1uojkKCQwZAd__2EnFA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDST0boTKE556qbwfk1yQQfrCks1uojkKCQwZAd__2EnFA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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