OK Aarti Ji.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 9:49 AM Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks Saroj Ji.
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 5:17 PM Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> *Echinacea pallida *(Nutt.) Nutt. ??
>>
>> Thank you
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>
>> Date: Monday, May 31, 2021 at 8:08:45 AM UTC+5:45
>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:387198] Echinacea Species for ID : Niagara
>> Falls, New York : 26SEP19 : AK-12
>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Gurcharan Singh <
>> [email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Gurcharan Ji,
>> Thanks for forwarding my earlier post from Niagara Falls.
>> Hope to get the id sorted.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>> On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 11:49 AM Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Forwarding for ID
>> Distributed as Echinacea simulata?
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/heliantheae/echinacea/echinacea-simulata>
>> Group discussion at
>> Echinacea Species for ID : Niagara Falls, New York : 26SEP19 : AK-12
>> (google.com) <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/_X0Wtu9lHvY>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 12:21:45 PM UTC+5:30 Aarti S. Khale
>> wrote:
>>
>> Usha Di,
>> Thanks for pointing out the differences in the two species.
>> Will try searching further.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:43 PM ushadi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I know of at least two Echinacae plants that have skinny (less than 5 cms
>> wide ) leaves
>> and  flowers that  look like this... ie similar.... to what what you have
>> ....
>> E. pallida and E. simulata.
>>
>> I don't remember your earlier submission
>>
>> but here ...in this case
>>
>> I cant see the pollen grain color
>> that is the only way to differentiate Echinacea pallida from E. simulata
>> I quote
>>
>> *"Key to Echinacea in North Carolina*
>>
>> Key adapted from Binns et al. (2002
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/lit_cit.htm>),
>> Urbatsch et al. (2006
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/lit_cit.htm>
>> [FNA]), and Weakley (2008
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/lit_cit.htm>).
>> Photos by Krings, unless otherwise indicated. Maps courtesy of USDA PLANTS
>> and the North Carolina Natural Heritage Program.
>> 1. Leaves lanceolate to ovate, the larger > 5 cm wide...2.2. Leaves
>> glabrous on both sides, or scabrous above; receptacle bracts (paleae) 7–12
>> mm long, awns about a fourth the length of the entire bract...*E.
>> laevigata**
>> *[image: Echinacea laevigata] *
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_complete.jpg>
>> *[image: Echinacea laevigata habitat]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1812_lect.JPG>
>> *Habitat of Echinacea laevigata (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea laevigata basal leaves]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1830_lect.JPG>
>>  *[image:
>> Echinacea laevigata stem closeup]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1815_lect.JPG>
>>  *[image:
>> Echinacea laevigata leaf closeup]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1816_lect.JPG>
>>  *[image:
>> Echinacea laevigata]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1829_lect.JPG>
>> *Echinacea laevigata (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea laevigata]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_1813_lect.JPG>
>> *Echinacea laevigata (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea laevigata]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_laevigata_6626_lect.JPG>
>> *Echinacea laevigata (Photo: Krings)*
>>
>>
>> *Echinacea laevigata*(rare [Fed E, S1 G2]; glades and woodlands over
>> mafic or calcareous substrates; Pd; summer to fall) *
>> 2'. Leaves pubescent or scabrous on both sides; receptacle bracts
>> (paleae) 9–15 mm long, awns about half the length of the entire bract...*E.
>> purpurea*
>> *[image: Echinacea purpurea] *
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_complete.jpg>
>> *[image: Echinacea purpurea]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings1.jpg>
>> *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea purpurea]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings2.jpg>
>> *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea purpurea]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings3.jpg>
>> *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea purpurea]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings4.jpg>
>> *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea purpurea]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings5.jpg>
>> *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea purpurea]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings6.jpg>
>> *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea purpurea]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_purpurea_Krings7.jpg>
>> *Echinacea purpurea (Photo: Krings)*
>>
>>
>> *Echinacea purpurea(rare [State SC-V, S1 G4]; roadsides and woodlands,
>> sometimes spreading from cultivation; Mt, Pd) *
>> 1'. Leaves lanceolate to linear, the larger < 5 cm wide...3.
>>
>> 3. Fresh pollen white...*E. pallida*
>> *[image: Echinacea pallida] *
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/Echinacea_pallida_complete.jpg>
>> *[image: Echinacea pallida]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_lvs.jpg>
>> *Narrow leaves of Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea pallida]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_lf.jpg>
>> *Narrow leaf of Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea pallida]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_lf_surface.jpg>
>> *Abaxial leaf surface of Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea pallida]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_stem.jpg>
>> *Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea pallida]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_fl.jpg>
>> *Echinacea pallida (Photo: Krings)*
>> *[image: Echinacea pallida]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_fl2.jpg>
>>  *[image:
>> Echinacea pallida]*
>> <https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/images/echinacea_pallida_Krings_pollen1.jpg>
>>
>>
>> * Echinacea pallida(rare [SR-D; perhaps introduced? Additional study
>> needed]; roadsides; Pd, Mt)See note under E. simulata. *
>> 3'. Fresh pollen pale to bright yellow...*E. simulata*  "  end quote...from
>> URL
>> https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/echinacea.htmgo to
>> this web page and use the + sign to look at the picturesso unless we see
>> the pollenits either  E. pallida or it is E. simulata.
>> *not any further *
>> Regards
>> Ushadi
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:36 PM Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for validating Saroj Ji.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 8:45:43 PM UTC+4, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
>> wrote:
>>
>> Seems correct !
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:01 PM Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Echinacea Species seen near the Niagara Falls.
>> Could be Echinacea simulata?
>> It was evening time, and I couldn't get better pictures.
>> Aarti
>>
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