OK Surjit ji. Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 7:46 AM surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you, Saroj ji, for providing the latest accepted name of this > species. > > With regards, > > Surajit Koley > > On Thu, 16 Oct, 2025, 12:59 pm Saroj Kumar Kasaju, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> *Now : **Torenia anagallis *(Burm.fil.) Wannan, W.R.Barker & Y.S.Liang >> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77201456-1 >> >> Thank you >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 at 11:53:42 PM UTC+5:45 >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:164126] Ilysanthes hyssopioides Benth. ??? >> To: JM Garg <[email protected]> >> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, [email protected] >> <[email protected]>, Vijayasankar <[email protected]>, >> PUTTARAJU >> K <[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, >> Prashant >> <[email protected]>, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> >> >> This is *Torenia diffusa* Roxb., a complex of *Vandellia*, *Bonnaya, >> Torenia*!!! Thanks to friend from Bangladesh. >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:04 AM, surajit koley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Is my plant then *Gratiola parviflora* Roxb.? >> The leaves seem to be penninerved (not clear in the photographs, at all). >> So, can it be *Lindernia anagallis* (N. L. Burman) Pennell? >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:14 PM, surajit koley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> A number of pictures of *Torenia thouarsii* (Cham. & Schltdl.) Kuntze >> can be found in - http://www.tropicos.org/name/29201882. So, my plant >> can not be *Torenia **thouarsii* (Cham. & Schltdl.) Kuntze, neither *Torenia >> parviflora* (description can be found in FoC or FBI) as have been >> identified in the blog from Bangladesh >> <http://icwow.blogspot.in/2012/11/small-wishbone-flower-torenia-thouarsii.html> >> . >> >> There are herbarium images of various *Gratiola* in the Linnean org. - >> http://linnean-online.org/view/type/specimen/Gratiola.html, e.g. - >> >> - *Gratiola hyssopioides* - 1)http://linnean-online.org/251/ 2) >> http://linnean-online.org/252/ 3)http://linnean-online.org/33086/ >> - *Gratiola lobelioides* - 1)http://linnean-online.org/33090/ 2) >> http://linnean-online.org/33092/ >> >> I think, those two herbarium of *G. lobelioides* show *globose capsules* >> and plants different from what we have in eFI !!! >> On the other hand herbarium of *G. hyssopioides* above very similar to >> the plant, *Lindernia hyssopioides* (L.) Haines of eF >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/K19PuNKreBg> >> !!! >> >> *Now, who or what is correct? And what about Giby Sir's bearded stamens?* >> >> *And also what about flower to leaf ratio, as in >> - http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/264031 >> <http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/264031>?* >> >> *Sorry, Vijay Sir and Giby Sir. you may be quite correct.* >> >> It turns out that my plant is neither *hyssopioides* nor *lobelioides*! >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:52 AM, surajit koley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> One person, seemingly from Bangladesh, has a plant that looks similar to >> my plant in this thread. He identifies it as *Torenia* - >> http://icwow.blogspot.in/2012/11/small-wishbone-flower-torenia-thouarsii.html, >> which i do not think is correct at all! >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:57 PM, surajit koley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> One more thing i would like to add that i never mentioned "Haines" in >> this discussion so far. Attaching entries from Dr. Haines. It is to be >> noted Dr. Haines used* "comb. nov.*". >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:40 PM, surajit koley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Sir, >> >> Let's skip the ID of this plant, in this thread, for the time being. >> Instead, I try to figure out what is *Dopatrium lobelioides* Benth. >> >> We have two posts in eFI >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/plantaginaceae/dopatrium/dopatrium-lobelioides> >> - >> 1) Prshant Ji - >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/LdPWfBFjKK4 >> 2) Dinesh Ji - >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/kkMwF8g8WaE and >> there is Flickr a/c - >> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Dopatriumlobelioides&w=91314344@N00&m=tags&z=m >> There is a 3rd post. by me, irrelevant here, i have already posted >> info-plates in this thread. >> >> One more time i paste the url of what efI has labelled as *Ilysanthes >> hyssopioides* (L.) Benth >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/lindernia/lindernia-hyssopoides>. >> - https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/K19PuNKreBg >> . >> >> I pray Puttaraju Ji's permission for modifying (magnifying) part of his >> uploaded photographs. And i attach the same herewith. I also attach >> relevant entries from Icones and Flora Indica (on *Gratiola lobelioides* >> ). >> >> The DATA I find from all these documents (excluding illustrations plates >> of Icones, Coromandel) - >> >> - I am skipping leaf and capsule descriptions, because there are >> plenty space to form misconceptions from conflicting data in those >> descriptions >> - peduncles axillary (Roxb.); long peduncled (Roxb.); pedicels >> capillary (Hooker); longish pedicelled (Wight) >> - corolla nearly *5 times* the length of the calyx (*against* *3 or 4 >> times* in *Bonnaya hissopioides* Benth,) >> - as for globose capsule, it is not clear if *"*IMG_8549.jpg" >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/LdPWfBFjKK4> of >> Prashnt Ji's post >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/LdPWfBFjKK4> >> is a capsule; if it is a capsule, i think, we can see same in the modified >> photo of Pottaraju Ji's post >> - even blue markings on corolla are very similar in all the posts >> discussed here; we can ignore the color blue or purplish. >> >> The post at >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/K19PuNKreBg is >> surely *Dopatrium lobelioides* Benth. (assuming Dinesh Ji's and Prashant >> Ji's posts are correctly identified, though have some doubt over one >> photograph in Dinesh Ji's post). >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:48 PM, surajit koley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Sorry, missed plate 203. >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:23 PM, surajit koley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Sir, >> >> The problem is manifold to me for this plant, rather the issue of " >> *hyssopioides*". >> >> There are- >> >> 1. *Ilysanthes hyssopioides* Benth., backed by illustrations (a) >> plate 203 of Coromandel Plants and (b) 857 of Icones >> 2. *Gratiola hyssopioides* of plate 128 of Coromandel Plants, along >> with plate 859 of Icones Plantarum >> >> And there are descriptions as well as illustrations- >> >> 1. CP plate 128 = FBI *Dopatrium lobelioides* Benth., having *globose >> capsule* = *Gratiola hyssopioides* of Flora Indica. i. 141., having >> *linear-oblong >> capsule* >> 2. the plant, >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/K19PuNKreBg, >> referred by Garg Sir in this thread, *looks more like plate 128* >> (Coromandel Plants) to me >> >> Relevant plates are attached herewith. >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 1:18 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> efi page on Lindernia hyssopoides >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/lindernia/lindernia-hyssopoides> >> (Syn: *Ilysanthes* *hyssopioides* (L.) Benth. >> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-29208146>) >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *surajit koley* <[email protected]> >> Date: 1 September 2013 14:02 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:164126] Ilysanthes hyssopioides Benth. ??? >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> This plant, recorded on 12-May-2013. somehow got deleted from my memory >> till this morning! 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