Thanks a lot Dinesh sir and Dr. Tabish sir.
Yeah stipules were enough to say that this is not surattensis.
Thanks for the information and the links.
Pankaj




On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think the leaves of Hibiscus surattensis is deeply lobed as compared
> to those of Hibiscus hispidissimus. Also lobes in the mature leaves of
> Hibiscus hispidissimus are long-pointed - not so in Hibiscus
> surattensis.
>  Other difference is that Hibiscus surattensis is either prostrate or
> climbing. Dinesh's plant is erect at this stage. Hibiscus
> hispidissimus is supposed to be erect or scandent.
> So, to me Dinesh's plant looks like Hibiscus hispidissimus.
>    - Tabish
>
> On Nov 6, 8:36 pm, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dear Pankaj ... knowing that both the species are very close, put the plant
>> for validation.
>>
>> Had glimpsed this journal earlier to posting.
>>
>> There is another Google Book available for referencing these two species ...
>> Malvaceae of southern peninsular India: a taxonomic monograph by V. V.
>> Sivarajan, A. K. Pradeep 
>> athttp://books.google.co.in/books?id=XhVI5BluzCUC&pg=PA106&lpg=PA106&dq...
>> want of time did not condense this extra long URL ... will make use of
>> your tip in future)
>>
>> Going through their descriptions and illustrations, am more inclined towards
>> H. hispidissimus ... for the sole reason that the stipule in case of H.
>> surattensis is quite (relatively) conspicuous.
>> Did not dig any other features
>>
>> Your thoughts.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>> > Journal is available for free on the internet especially all the
>> > volumes before 2001.
>>
>> >http://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=Hibiscus+hispidissimu...
>>
>> > Anyways, what made me jump in was the reprint itself. From this
>> > particular reference I think the plant should be Hibiscus
>> > surattensis!!
>>
>> > Regards
>> > Pankaj
>>
>> > On Nov 6, 7:05 pm, tanay bose <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > Right you are Dinesh Ji but the leaf stucture show how asures me this
>> > plant
>> > > as H . hispidissimus
>> > > Tanay
>>
>> > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > Dear Tanay ... many thanks for providing the literature ... did come
>> > across
>> > > > this article ... not sure of the URL.
>> > > > And therefore seeking validation ... you see *Hibiscus surattensis* is
>> > > > quite close to *H. hispidissimus*.
>>
>> > > > Regards.
>>
>> > > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:45 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > >> Dear Dinesh Ji,
>> > > >> I think you are right , I am attaching a paper from taxon which I
>> > think
>> > > >> will help you, this paper is not available to public but I have the
>> > access.
>> > > >> Kindly consider.
>>
>> > > >> Regards
>> > > >> tanay
>>
>> > > >> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]
>> > >wrote:
>>
>> > > >>> Dear friends,
>> > > >>> Believing this plant to be *Hibiscus hispidissimus* ... please
>> > validate.
>>
>> > > >>> Date/Time : October 31, 2010 at 8.47am IST
>> > > >>> Location Place : Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park)
>> > > >>> Altitude : about 259 m (above mean sea level)
>> > > >>> GPS : around 19°14'59.92"N, 72°56'0.04"E
>>
>> > > >>> Habitat : growing wild in mixed deciduous forest
>>
>> > > >>> Plant
>> > > >>> Habit : diffuse herb
>> > > >>> Height :about 1 m
>>
>> > > >>> Regards.
>>
>> > > >> --
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>> > > University of British Columbia .
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