Thankyou Sir for the various links and info. and validating the scientific name that so many authors have already stated. I think in our goal of making this group more and more authentic and taxonomically up to date, we must continue to accept first the facts that are available, and if there is any contradiction or varying informattion than that source or citation should be given by the concerned person who has brought it to the notice otherwise it leads to ambiguity and bad science.
regards, Rashida. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > I would request members to desist from comments which can hart others, even > though they may be made obliquely. It has been the result of great efforts > by many of us that we see such an hormonious and cordial atmosphere in this > group. Let not any single action undo this great effort. This is my humble > request. > > There are several references to support that epithet scholaris is derived > from the old practice of making slates from its wood. The practice of using > the whorl of leaves for giving degrees may have been a secondary development > as suggested by Rashida ji. I did not find any refrence of this being the > original reason/source of name scholaris. Besides references provided by > Rashida ji, here are some more. The first link itself should settle the > issue. There perhaps hundreds of links supporting the same. I am giving > few): > > > http://www.britishmuseum.org/the_museum/news_and_press_releases/press_releases/2009/india_landscape.aspx > > http://raokln.blogspot.com/2010/11/alstonia-scholaris-scholar-tree.html > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/346584555/ > > http://www.djibnet.com/photo/palai/alstonia-scholaris-2288526504.html > > http://www.jagtapnursery.com/demo/plants/trees/satvin-devils-tree-96.php > > http://www.indi-journal.info/archives/3269 > > http://www.prcupcc.org/herbs/herbsd/deviltree.htm > > > http://homeopathyworldcommunity.com/photo/alstonia-scholaris?context=featured > > http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Devil%20Tree.html > > > http://gardeningwithwilson.com/2010/01/05/appreciate-the-beauty-of-alstonias/ > > > http://medicinalplants-india.blogspot.com/2008/02/alstonia-scholaris-saptparni.html > > http://recordingnature.wordpress.com/ > > http://asp.learn.net.in/photos/view.php?id=346584555&/Alstonia-scholaris > > > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:10 PM, promila chaturvedi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Anadi Ji, >> thanks for the answer. But Electricity Board can do it. They do not need >> to take the permission. Some times they may take undue advantage of it. >> Others cannot do the same. >> Promila >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Anandi Sharan <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> dear promila ji >>> >>> the funny thing is that electricity board without permission does it >>> all the time -- when i asked them for their permission note they said >>> they did not have one and that they did not need one. i will check >>> this again now that you remind me. >>> green greetings >>> anandi >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:45 PM, promila chaturvedi >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > The Blackboards, which were used in the classes in my time, >>> weremadefrom >>> > Scholar's tree. Hence the name Alstonia scholaris. >>> > Kiran Ji, choping the braches of trees is ban in Delhi. If somebody >>> does it >>> > without forest department's writtenpermision can be sued, and the >>> penalty is >>> > one year jail or Rs. 80,000=00 fine or both. >>> > Promila >>> > >>> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:24 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> This is still a practice in Viswa Bharati university >>> >> shantiniketan, west bengal India >>> >> Tanay >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Pankaj Kumar < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Its called SCHOLARIS because, the old times plates of leaves were >>> >>> exclusively used to give away degrees to the students. >>> >>> Pankaj >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > The state tree of Bengal >>> >>> > tanay >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Pankaj Kumar < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> One of the local names of Alstonia scholaris is CHHATIM or CHATNI >>> >>> >> CHAAL. >>> >>> >> The bark is supposed to be very useful for blood purification >>> >>> >> especially in case of diabetes or Jaundice in Jharkhand as well as >>> in >>> >>> >> Ayurveda. Thats why Mr. Nalwade must have seen bark scrapping. >>> >>> >> Pankaj >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:41 PM, kiran srivastava >>> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >> > A little trivia: Large branches of the big Alstonia scholaris >>> tree >>> >>> >> > behind >>> >>> >> > the house I temporarily stay in Delhi was cut down ostensibly to >>> >>> >> > allow >>> >>> >> > the >>> >>> >> > sun rays on the flower bed in the small park. Apparently, the >>> local >>> >>> >> > garden >>> >>> >> > community had this tree trimmed by the NDMC authorities. But it >>> >>> >> > wouldn't >>> >>> >> > surprise me if branches of trees are cut to allow the sun in >>> winter >>> >>> >> > to >>> >>> >> > warm >>> >>> >> > up courtyards that are otherwise completely blotted from the the >>> >>> >> > sun. I >>> >>> >> > have >>> >>> >> > seen it happen. Before it was trimmed the flowers were within >>> >>> >> > touching >>> >>> >> > distance from the 2nd floor terrace. >>> >>> >> > There are several trees such as Semul (Bombax malabaricum) and >>> Siris >>> >>> >> > (Albizia lebbek) growing in small, old colony roads whose >>> branches >>> >>> >> > have >>> >>> >> > spread widely blocking sunlight in homes. They could be trimmed >>> >>> >> > especially, >>> >>> >> > if old people want to sit out and soak in the sun during Delhi's >>> >>> >> > winters...and this winter its really cold. >>> >>> >> > Cheers, >>> >>> >> > Kiran Srivastava >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Rashida Atthar >>> >>> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Ajay ji according to info. in the book 'Trees of Mumbai' pg 51 >>> ..." >>> >>> >> >> In >>> >>> >> >> olden days the wood of this tree was used to make slates for >>> >>> >> >> children, >>> >>> >> >> hence scholaris." The book further adds "The dita bark of the >>> tree >>> >>> >> >> is >>> >>> >> >> used >>> >>> >> >> in Indian medecine for treating asthma and heart ailments, >>> fever >>> >>> >> >> and >>> >>> >> >> diarrhoea.During the Diwali festival, the bitter bark is >>> consumed >>> >>> >> >> before >>> >>> >> >> eating sweets to neutralize the excessive intake of sugar." >>> >>> >> >> regards, >>> >>> >> >> Rashida. >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Ajay Nalawade >>> >>> >> >> <[email protected]> >>> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> We noted Some Bark scraping in Konkan region. >>> >>> >> >>> Can anybody tell for which purpose this bark is used??? >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Arijit Banerjee >>> >>> >> >>> <[email protected]> >>> >>> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Alstonia scholaris in fruit, >>> >>> >> >>>> Patuli, Kolkata, India >>> >>> >> >>>> 8 January 2011 >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> The fruits do look quite similar to those of Wrightia >>> tinctoria >>> >>> >> >>>> (Khirni) >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Arijit Banerjee >>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> -- >>> >>> >> *********************************************** >>> >>> >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>> >>> >> Research Associate >>> >>> >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >>> >>> >> Department of Habitat Ecology >>> >>> >> Wildlife Institute of India >>> >>> >> Post Box # 18 >>> >>> >> Dehradun - 248001, India >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > -- >>> >>> > Tanay Bose >>> >>> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant. >>> >>> > Department of Botany. >>> >>> > University of British Columbia . >>> >>> > 3529-6270 University Blvd. >>> >>> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >>> >>> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) >>> >>> > 604-822-2019 (Lab) >>> >>> > 604-822-6089 (Fax) >>> >>> > [email protected] >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *********************************************** >>> >>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>> >>> Research Associate >>> >>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >>> >>> Department of Habitat Ecology >>> >>> Wildlife Institute of India >>> >>> Post Box # 18 >>> >>> Dehradun - 248001, India >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Tanay Bose >>> >> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant. >>> >> Department of Botany. >>> >> University of British Columbia . >>> >> 3529-6270 University Blvd. >>> >> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >>> >> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) >>> >> 604-822-2019 (Lab) >>> >> 604-822-6089 (Fax) >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ---- >>> >> >> > > >
