Yes Shrikant ji Very valid comment: "it is one but not the same" Capparis zeylonica L. and C. horrida L.f had originally been described as distinct species, C. horrida being also the plant which Roxb. called as C. zeylonica (C. zeylonica Roxb. (non L.). Most recent treatments (including eFlora of Pakistan, eFlora of China, most importantly KEW & MBG The Plant List (which should be most widely followed source in near future once the glitches (now many many) are removed) treat C. horrida L.f. as synonym of C. zeylonica L., so they are treated as one species, because the differences are not enough to treat them as distinct species. So they are treated as one, although they are not the same.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:44 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar <[email protected] > wrote: > Dear Mr. Pardeshi, the citation however does not clarify my queries on > spines and leaves > . I am saying it is one (plant as per floras) but not the same. > > > On Jan 27, 9:23 pm, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think Srikanth ji is right. FBI treats both the species separate and > only > > includes *Capparis zeylanica Roxb.* as synonym under *C. horrida L.f.*, > and > > *NOT* C. zeylanica L., which is a different species. > > There may be some misunderstanding about this point, i guess. > > > > Regards > > > > Vijayasankar Raman > > National Center for Natural Products Research > > University of Mississippi > > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Pardeshi S. <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Shrikant ji > > > According to Fl. of Maharashtra-Almeida sir > > > the citation is as follows > > > Capparis zeylanica L. Sp. Pl. ed. 2: 720, 1792, Cooke, Fl. Pres. > > > Bombay 1: 47; Almeida, Fl. Mah. 1: 50, 1996; Singh et al. Fl. Mah. St. > > > 1: 215, 2000; Pradhan et al, Fl. SGNP 98, 2005. > > > Synonyms: C. hastigera Hans, Seem. Bot. 6. 296, 1868. C. xanthophylla > > > coll. & Hemsl., J. L. Soc. Lord. Bot. 28: 20, 1980. C. horrida L.f. > > > Suppl. 264, 1781. > > > Common name: Tarati, Wagoti, Wag, Govindi, Govindphal. > > > > > C. zeylanica and C. horrida are one and the same plant. > > > also the fruit are commonly used during Ganpati festival and kept near > > > the ganpati Idol along with Fruits of Celastrsu paniculatus. > > > > > Regards > > > Satish Pardeshi > > > > > On Jan 27, 2:35 pm, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Muthu ji can you please mention a charactersitic or two, from the > flora > > > you > > > > generally refer to indicate this is not C. zeylanica? > > > > > > regards, > > > > Rashida. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > The plant posted is not *Capparis zeylanica*. kindly validate. > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Aarti S. Khale < > > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > >> Shrikant ji, > > > > >> I have photographed some capers from Oman & Kenya. > > > > >> Will post these for you to see and if possible identify. > > > > >> Regards, > > > > >> Aarti > > > > > > >> On Jan 14, 7:02 pm, shrikant ingalhalikar <[email protected]> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > Dear All, > > > > > > >> > Let me share some doubts on the plant posted here. The plant > > > disagrees > > > > >> > with the description in the floras in following respects. > > > > >> > 1. Stipular spines are hooked instead of straight. > > > > >> > 2. Leaves are obovate, retuse with a mucro and narrowed at base > > > > >> > instead of elliptic acute and rounded at base. > > > > > > >> > The plant matches with the description of C. horrida L. > described in > > > > >> > T. Cooke's flora which is given as a syn of C. zeylanica in BSI > > > flora > > > > >> > of Maharashtra. I had seen this plant at Kanakeshwar along with > Mr. > > > > >> > Pravin Kawle last year and was wondering if I could see it in > > > flowers. > > > > >> > Can anyone explain the merger of 2 distinct plants? Regards, > > > Shrikant > > > > > > >> > On Jan 14, 3:02 pm, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > Saw this flower of Capparis zeylanica in the evening at the > south > > > end > > > > >> of the > > > > >> > > forest in Mumbai this month. The fruits are used for making > > > pickle. > > > > >> The > > > > >> > > flowers change colour from pinkish to red and purple by evenng > as > > > seen > > > > >> in > > > > >> > > the picture. > > > > > > >> > > regards, > > > > >> > > Rashida. > > > > > > >> > > Capparis zeylanica.JPG > > > > >> > > 117KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Muthu Karthick, N > > > > > Junior Research Fellow > > > > > Care Earth Trust > > > > > #15, second main road, > > > > > Thillai ganga nagar, > > > > > Chennai - 600 061 > > > > > Mob: 09626833911 > > > > >www.careearthtrust.org- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -
