many sorries Rashidaji, my points were completely blunder owing to my own obsession of the plant. Now I got to know this is C.zeylanica L. Yes this shrub have recurved thorns and strongly mucronate. The fruits are edible and are called as Athondai in Tamil. Reference: An Excursion flora of Central Tamilnadu by KM Matthew.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes Shrikant ji > Very valid comment: "it is one but not the same" > Capparis zeylonica L. and C. horrida L.f had originally been described as > distinct species, C. horrida being also the plant which Roxb. called as C. > zeylonica (C. zeylonica Roxb. (non L.). > Most recent treatments (including eFlora of Pakistan, eFlora of China, > most importantly KEW & MBG The Plant List (which should be most widely > followed source in near future once the glitches (now many many) are > removed) treat C. horrida L.f. as synonym of C. zeylonica L., so they are > treated as one species, because the differences are not enough to treat them > as distinct species. So they are treated as one, although they are not the > same. > > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:44 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Mr. Pardeshi, the citation however does not clarify my queries on >> spines and leaves >> . I am saying it is one (plant as per floras) but not the same. >> >> >> On Jan 27, 9:23 pm, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I think Srikanth ji is right. FBI treats both the species separate and >> only >> > includes *Capparis zeylanica Roxb.* as synonym under *C. horrida L.f.*, >> and >> > *NOT* C. zeylanica L., which is a different species. >> > There may be some misunderstanding about this point, i guess. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Vijayasankar Raman >> > National Center for Natural Products Research >> > University of Mississippi >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Pardeshi S. <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hello Shrikant ji >> > > According to Fl. of Maharashtra-Almeida sir >> > > the citation is as follows >> > > Capparis zeylanica L. Sp. Pl. ed. 2: 720, 1792, Cooke, Fl. Pres. >> > > Bombay 1: 47; Almeida, Fl. Mah. 1: 50, 1996; Singh et al. Fl. Mah. St. >> > > 1: 215, 2000; Pradhan et al, Fl. SGNP 98, 2005. >> > > Synonyms: C. hastigera Hans, Seem. Bot. 6. 296, 1868. C. xanthophylla >> > > coll. & Hemsl., J. L. Soc. Lord. Bot. 28: 20, 1980. C. horrida L.f. >> > > Suppl. 264, 1781. >> > > Common name: Tarati, Wagoti, Wag, Govindi, Govindphal. >> > >> > > C. zeylanica and C. horrida are one and the same plant. >> > > also the fruit are commonly used during Ganpati festival and kept near >> > > the ganpati Idol along with Fruits of Celastrsu paniculatus. >> > >> > > Regards >> > > Satish Pardeshi >> > >> > > On Jan 27, 2:35 pm, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Muthu ji can you please mention a charactersitic or two, from the >> flora >> > > you >> > > > generally refer to indicate this is not C. zeylanica? >> > >> > > > regards, >> > > > Rashida. >> > >> > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > The plant posted is not *Capparis zeylanica*. kindly validate. >> > >> > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Aarti S. Khale < >> > > [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > > > >> Shrikant ji, >> > > > >> I have photographed some capers from Oman & Kenya. >> > > > >> Will post these for you to see and if possible identify. >> > > > >> Regards, >> > > > >> Aarti >> > >> > > > >> On Jan 14, 7:02 pm, shrikant ingalhalikar <[email protected]> >> > > > >> wrote: >> > > > >> > Dear All, >> > >> > > > >> > Let me share some doubts on the plant posted here. The plant >> > > disagrees >> > > > >> > with the description in the floras in following respects. >> > > > >> > 1. Stipular spines are hooked instead of straight. >> > > > >> > 2. Leaves are obovate, retuse with a mucro and narrowed at base >> > > > >> > instead of elliptic acute and rounded at base. >> > >> > > > >> > The plant matches with the description of C. horrida L. >> described in >> > > > >> > T. Cooke's flora which is given as a syn of C. zeylanica in BSI >> > > flora >> > > > >> > of Maharashtra. I had seen this plant at Kanakeshwar along with >> Mr. >> > > > >> > Pravin Kawle last year and was wondering if I could see it in >> > > flowers. >> > > > >> > Can anyone explain the merger of 2 distinct plants? Regards, >> > > Shrikant >> > >> > > > >> > On Jan 14, 3:02 pm, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > > >> > > Saw this flower of Capparis zeylanica in the evening at the >> south >> > > end >> > > > >> of the >> > > > >> > > forest in Mumbai this month. The fruits are used for making >> > > pickle. >> > > > >> The >> > > > >> > > flowers change colour from pinkish to red and purple by >> evenng as >> > > seen >> > > > >> in >> > > > >> > > the picture. >> > >> > > > >> > > regards, >> > > > >> > > Rashida. >> > >> > > > >> > > Capparis zeylanica.JPG >> > > > >> > > 117KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > >> > - Show quoted text - >> > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Muthu Karthick, N >> > > > > Junior Research Fellow >> > > > > Care Earth Trust >> > > > > #15, second main road, >> > > > > Thillai ganga nagar, >> > > > > Chennai - 600 061 >> > > > > Mob: 09626833911 >> > > > >www.careearthtrust.org- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- Muthu Karthick, N Junior Research Fellow Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 09626833911 www.careearthtrust.org
