Thanks Pankaj ji Your quoted three last lines clinch the issue. It was a really interesting discussion. I am reminded of our discussion on Ranunculus hirtellus which dragged whole night (yours) and my day in California.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > To me it was hard to believe that it was stem. I just checked, Forest > Trees of Northern Thailand just now, I would like to quote a line from > there, which may explain what I might have seen... but I truely > remember what I saw was not coming from the top but from below the > ground and the, what I thought to be root stalk was running till the > base of the main trunk. > > "Figs clustered along slender stems which start on the trunk but droop > downwards and often reach the ground, forming runners upto 1 m long, > just below the surface." > > Thank you Gurcharan sir for pointing this out... > Pankaj > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Gurcharan sir, > > Yes I know abt stalks coming from the lower part of main trunk which > > is not very unsual for Ficus semicordata. But what I am talking about > > is the root branches IN THE GROUND, when they spread up. I have seen > > stalks coming from them. I was also very much surprised. I will see if > > I have any such picture. Otherwise, I will request Mr. Hari Shankar > > Lal, if he can drive uptill zoological garden in Ranchi (Ormanjhi) and > > if the tree is still there, he would be able to send fresh pictures. > > Its there on the right hand side of the enterance at around 50 m from > > the main gate. > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Let us not confuse shoots/branches with roots. About Ficus semicordata: > >> This if from eFlora of China " Figs on pendulous, eventually prostrate, > >> leafless branchlets, ± underground at maturity," > >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200006371 > >> And this is from eFlora of Pakistan "Hypanthodia on 5-8 mm long > peduncles, > >> borne in pairs or clusters on long usually leafless, scaly branches > borne > >> from the trunk or main leafless branches" > >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200006371 > >> The fruits may arise from branches or peduncles from underground > branches, > >> but as botanists we should not use term root in the same way we can't > use > >> term root for potato tuber, Alocasia corm or Ginger rhizome. > >> The point under discussion is can fruits arise directly from roots or > not. > >> My botany says not possible. > >> > >> -- > >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >> Retired Associate Professor > >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >> > >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Many thanks Pankaj ... never knew about the fact that fruits rise from > >>> roots "on the ground" in case of Ficus semicordata. > >>> Now understanding what HS is meaning to say that Ficus hispida produces > >>> fruits on the roots ... many thanks HS. > >>> > >>> Regards. > >>> Dinesh > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dinesh sir, > >>>> Ficus semicordata, I have seen stalks with figs coming out from the > >>>> root on the ground. Dont know of any other species. > >>>> Pankaj > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *********************************************** > >>>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >>>> Research Associate > >>>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > >>>> Department of Habitat Ecology > >>>> Wildlife Institute of India > >>>> Post Box # 18 > >>>> Dehradun - 248001, India > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > *********************************************** > > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > > > > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > > Research Associate > > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > > Department of Habitat Ecology > > Wildlife Institute of India > > Post Box # 18 > > Dehradun - 248001, India > > > > > > -- > *********************************************** > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Research Associate > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > Department of Habitat Ecology > Wildlife Institute of India > Post Box # 18 > Dehradun - 248001, India >
