Many thanks Gurcharan ji and Pankaj for resolving this interesting point. Regards. Dinesh.
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Pankaj ji > Your quoted three last lines clinch the issue. > It was a really interesting discussion. > I am reminded of our discussion on Ranunculus hirtellus which dragged whole > night (yours) and my day in California. > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > >> To me it was hard to believe that it was stem. I just checked, Forest >> Trees of Northern Thailand just now, I would like to quote a line from >> there, which may explain what I might have seen... but I truely >> remember what I saw was not coming from the top but from below the >> ground and the, what I thought to be root stalk was running till the >> base of the main trunk. >> >> "Figs clustered along slender stems which start on the trunk but droop >> downwards and often reach the ground, forming runners upto 1 m long, >> just below the surface." >> >> Thank you Gurcharan sir for pointing this out... >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Gurcharan sir, >> > Yes I know abt stalks coming from the lower part of main trunk which >> > is not very unsual for Ficus semicordata. But what I am talking about >> > is the root branches IN THE GROUND, when they spread up. I have seen >> > stalks coming from them. I was also very much surprised. I will see if >> > I have any such picture. Otherwise, I will request Mr. Hari Shankar >> > Lal, if he can drive uptill zoological garden in Ranchi (Ormanjhi) and >> > if the tree is still there, he would be able to send fresh pictures. >> > Its there on the right hand side of the enterance at around 50 m from >> > the main gate. >> > >> > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Let us not confuse shoots/branches with roots. About Ficus semicordata: >> >> This if from eFlora of China " Figs on pendulous, eventually prostrate, >> >> leafless branchlets, ± underground at maturity," >> >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200006371 >> >> And this is from eFlora of Pakistan "Hypanthodia on 5-8 mm long >> peduncles, >> >> borne in pairs or clusters on long usually leafless, scaly branches >> borne >> >> from the trunk or main leafless branches" >> >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200006371 >> >> The fruits may arise from branches or peduncles from underground >> branches, >> >> but as botanists we should not use term root in the same way we can't >> use >> >> term root for potato tuber, Alocasia corm or Ginger rhizome. >> >> The point under discussion is can fruits arise directly from roots or >> not. >> >> My botany says not possible. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> Retired Associate Professor >> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Many thanks Pankaj ... never knew about the fact that fruits rise from >> >>> roots "on the ground" in case of Ficus semicordata. >> >>> Now understanding what HS is meaning to say that Ficus hispida >> produces >> >>> fruits on the roots ... many thanks HS. >> >>> >> >>> Regards. >> >>> Dinesh >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected] >> > >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Dinesh sir, >> >>>> Ficus semicordata, I have seen stalks with figs coming out from the >> >>>> root on the ground. Dont know of any other species. >> >>>> Pankaj >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> *********************************************** >> >>>> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >>>> Research Associate >> >>>> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> >>>> Department of Habitat Ecology >> >>>> Wildlife Institute of India >> >>>> Post Box # 18 >> >>>> Dehradun - 248001, India >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > *********************************************** >> > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> > >> > >> > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> > Research Associate >> > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> > Department of Habitat Ecology >> > Wildlife Institute of India >> > Post Box # 18 >> > Dehradun - 248001, India >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> *********************************************** >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Research Associate >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> Wildlife Institute of India >> Post Box # 18 >> Dehradun - 248001, India >> > > > >
