Dear MR. Garg and ALL: Knowing what I know NOW ..... some clarity and some more confusion???
SEVERAL POINTS: POINT 1): This is wax jambu in these pictures ... the size and exact shape of the fruit is not visible... the rose colored ones are often labeled " rose apple" in local supermarkets... ie it must be a local or colloquial name...... hence the confusion.... POINT 2): Another confusion is taste of the fruit... some fruits , some years from the same tree, produce fruits with nice sweet/sour (very dilute of course) taste... some years its just flat... this year it was of flat tasting fruits... POINT 3): BUT THE REAL ROSE APPLE IS A DIFFERENT FRUIT ALTOGETHER, as Yadzy Ji pointed out .... AND I HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED A DETAILED PHOTOGRAPHIC DEPICTION OF WHAT IS A REAL ROSE JAMBU or ROSE APPLE... that has a definite ROSE scent and from which a rose essence was extracted in the 1840s... PLEASE SEE MY ORIGINAL THREAD at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/c29f5c6969c3eca4/58806f4c38adca6f?lnk=gst&q=usha+di+Rose+apple#58806f4c38adca6f The trees and their flowers and fruits I presented were identified by established botanical gardens (arboretums... ) run by universities....in California... no mistakes there... AND the fruits I presented I ate them myself... VERY PLEASANT rose scent and mouth feel very different from the WAX JAMBU..regardless of color.... and regardless of colloquial names be it rose apple or rose jambu or whatever... *** POINT 4) : I have some pictures of flowers of a properly identified tree labeled * Syzygium samarangense* at Kolkata Botanical Garden ... flowers are definitely white and fruits were also white.... since none were seen fallen on the ground..local urchins collect them asap... I do not have pictures of fruits fallen out of that tree... and now will have to wait till next spring and early summer..... POINT 5): FOR further classification: I think one needs better depiction of the fruits that clearly shows the neck and overall shape of the fruit... size.. Though I think a lot of variation is possible... MAY I PLEASE SUGGEST that .... JADZY Ji send us full side-view of the fruits, size, and a cut surface picture so that the shape can be judged,,,, POINT 6) : and PERHAPS the more important point is ... just like Hydrangeas.. and perhaps other plants... the colors of the flowers (and perhaps the fruits) may vary with local soil conditions, pH, and presence / and /or absence of some metals. and micro-nutrients ..... may be some one can start a thesis project.... THANKS.... Usha di ======================= On Aug 21, 1:09 pm, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > “*Syzygium malaccense*, Eugenia malaccensis, Family: Myrtaceae > Malay Apple, Macopa, Otaheite Apple, Pomarosa, Manzana > Origin: Malaysia” from Ajinkya ji. > > “*In Syzygium malaccense, or Eugenia malaccensis,the flowers will be > pinkish red*. Is this a variant or Could this be Syzygium samarangense syn. > Syzygium javanicum, Eugenia javanica. ( > linkhttp://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/syzygium_samarangense.htm)” from > Mahadeswara ji. > > “Thank you Mahadeshwara Ji, I think you are right, here is a > linkhttp://www.google.co.in/search?q=Syzygium+samarangense&ie=utf-8&oe=ut... > Regards > Yazdy.” > > "Some days ago Dinesh Valke wrote about the differences between Syzygium > aqueum & S. samarangense, where the first one has fruit cone-shaped, glossy > white to red, while S. samarangense has larger pyriform fruits. > Thus: IMG_6369.JPG should be *Syzygium aqueum* (Burm. f.) Alston > I will add another special character for S. aqueum is the ACIDIC FRUIT. > Pudji Widodo" > > Here is the earlier threads as pointed out by Pudji > ji:https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/9d... > > https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/2c... > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> > Date: 11 May 2011 22:58 > Subject: [efloraofindia:69275] 11/05/2011/YRP/01/ Naoroz Estate Chethalayam, > Wayanad, Kerala > To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> > > Dear Friends, The botanical name of the plant please? > Date & Time 11/05/2011 > Location: Place, Altitude, GPS Chethalayam, Wayanad. > Habitat: Garden, Urban, Wild Type: Garden > Plant Habit: Tree, Shrub, Climber, Herb Tree > Height, Length. > Leaves Type, Shape, Size > Inflorescence Type Size > Flowers Size Colour Calyx Bracts- > Fruits Type, Shape, Size Seeds > Other Information like Frangrance, Pollinator, Uses. > Regards > Yazdy. > > You have been sent 3 pictures. > > IMG_6369.JPG > IMG_6370.JPG > IMG_6371.JPG > > These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. > Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/ > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg ([email protected])http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & > place-wise):http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also > use them > for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google > e-group:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(more than 1680 members > & > 75,000 messages on 31/7/11) or Efloraofindia > website:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database > of more than 5000 species) > > > > IMG_6369.JPG > 203KViewDownload > > IMG_6370.JPG > 169KViewDownload > > IMG_6371.JPG > 203KViewDownload
