Dear Ushadi Ji,
The pictures on your link are indeed the rose apple I was referring
to. I have seen a slightly purple variety and a yellow variety. Both
are sweet, unlike the sour sweet taste of the fruits in my pictures.
Regards.
Yazdy Palia.
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Ushadi micromini
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear MR. Garg and ALL:
>
> Knowing what I know NOW ..... some clarity and some more
> confusion???
>
> SEVERAL POINTS:
>
> POINT 1): This is wax jambu in these pictures ... the size and
> exact shape of the fruit is not visible...
>
> the rose colored ones are often labeled " rose apple" in local
> supermarkets...
> ie it must be a local or colloquial name...... hence the confusion....
>
> POINT 2): Another confusion is taste of the fruit... some fruits ,
> some years from the same tree, produce fruits with nice sweet/sour
> (very dilute of course) taste... some years its just flat... this year
> it was of flat tasting fruits...
>
> POINT 3): BUT THE REAL ROSE APPLE IS A DIFFERENT FRUIT
> ALTOGETHER, as Yadzy Ji pointed out ....
>
> AND I HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED A DETAILED PHOTOGRAPHIC DEPICTION OF WHAT
> IS A REAL ROSE JAMBU or ROSE APPLE... that has a definite ROSE scent
> and from which a rose essence was extracted in the 1840s... PLEASE
> SEE MY ORIGINAL THREAD at
> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/c29f5c6969c3eca4/58806f4c38adca6f?lnk=gst&q=usha+di+Rose+apple#58806f4c38adca6f
>
> The trees and their flowers and fruits I presented were identified by
> established botanical gardens (arboretums... ) run by
> universities....in California... no mistakes there... AND the fruits
> I presented I ate them myself... VERY PLEASANT rose scent and mouth
> feel very different from the WAX JAMBU..regardless of color.... and
> regardless of colloquial names be it rose apple or rose jambu or
> whatever...
> ***
> POINT 4) : I have some pictures of flowers of a properly identified
> tree labeled * Syzygium samarangense*
> at Kolkata Botanical Garden ... flowers are definitely white and
> fruits were also white.... since none were seen fallen on the
> ground..local urchins collect them asap... I do not have pictures of
> fruits fallen out of that tree... and now will have to wait till next
> spring and early summer.....
>
>
> POINT 5): FOR further classification: I think one needs better
> depiction of the fruits that clearly shows the neck and overall shape
> of the fruit... size..
>
> Though I think a lot of variation is possible...
>
> MAY I PLEASE SUGGEST that .... JADZY Ji send us full side-view of the
> fruits, size, and a cut surface picture so that the shape can be
> judged,,,,
>
> POINT 6) : and PERHAPS the more important point is ... just like
> Hydrangeas.. and perhaps other plants... the colors of the flowers
> (and perhaps the fruits) may vary with local soil conditions, pH, and
> presence / and /or absence of some metals. and micro-nutrients .....
> may be some one can start a thesis project....
>
>
> THANKS....
> Usha di
>
> =======================
>
> On Aug 21, 1:09 pm, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>
>> “*Syzygium malaccense*, Eugenia malaccensis, Family: Myrtaceae
>> Malay Apple, Macopa, Otaheite Apple, Pomarosa, Manzana
>> Origin: Malaysia” from Ajinkya ji.
>>
>> “*In Syzygium malaccense, or Eugenia malaccensis,the flowers will be
>> pinkish red*. Is this a variant or Could this be Syzygium samarangense syn.
>> Syzygium javanicum, Eugenia javanica. (
>> linkhttp://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/syzygium_samarangense.htm)” from
>> Mahadeswara ji.
>>
>> “Thank you Mahadeshwara Ji, I think you are right, here is a
>> linkhttp://www.google.co.in/search?q=Syzygium+samarangense&ie=utf-8&oe=ut...
>> Regards
>> Yazdy.”
>>
>> "Some days ago Dinesh Valke wrote about the differences between Syzygium
>> aqueum & S. samarangense, where the first one has fruit cone-shaped, glossy
>> white to red, while S. samarangense has larger pyriform fruits.
>> Thus: IMG_6369.JPG should be *Syzygium aqueum* (Burm. f.) Alston
>> I will add another special character for S. aqueum is the ACIDIC FRUIT.
>> Pudji Widodo"
>>
>> Here is the earlier threads as pointed out by Pudji
>> ji:https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/9d...
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/2c...
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>
>> Date: 11 May 2011 22:58
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:69275] 11/05/2011/YRP/01/ Naoroz Estate Chethalayam,
>> Wayanad, Kerala
>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
>>
>> Dear Friends, The botanical name of the plant please?
>> Date & Time 11/05/2011
>> Location: Place, Altitude, GPS Chethalayam, Wayanad.
>> Habitat: Garden, Urban, Wild Type: Garden
>> Plant Habit: Tree, Shrub, Climber, Herb Tree
>> Height, Length.
>> Leaves Type, Shape, Size
>> Inflorescence Type Size
>> Flowers Size Colour Calyx Bracts-
>> Fruits Type, Shape, Size Seeds
>> Other Information like Frangrance, Pollinator, Uses.
>> Regards
>> Yazdy.
>>
>> You have been sent 3 pictures.
>>
>> IMG_6369.JPG
>> IMG_6370.JPG
>> IMG_6371.JPG
>>
>> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google.
>> Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/
>>
>> --
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