I think its F. indica

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Joshi Pankaj <[email protected]> wrote:

> need to local flora....we may corr. to Yadav Sir, 
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> confirmation.
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> --- On *Tue, 16/8/11, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>* wrote:
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> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:77254] Flacourtia species for ID.
> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
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> Date: Tuesday, 16 August, 2011, 6:35 PM
>
>
>  Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “After reading a lot from older posts and literature I understood some
> important points about Flacourtia genus............
> 1) It now belongs to Salicaceae and previously to Flacourtiaceae.
> 2) The flowers are without petals. Only sepals
> 3) Flowers are unisexual. Fruit is a berry.rather than a capsule as in
> Casearia
> (My pictures are probably showing only male flowers)
> 4) If one sees female flowers one has to look carefully for the stigma and
> style to differentiate between the species.
> 5) There is a lot of confusion between F.indica and F. latifolia.
> 6) Acc. Flora of BSI Mah ;
> Styles absent(stigma sessile)...F.latifolia
> Styles distinct and conspicuous:
>      Tomentose young twigs; leaves turning brown on drying  ....
> F.montana
>      Glabrous young twigs; Leaves not turning brown             ....
> F.indica.
> 7)Cooke's Flora doesn't mention F.indica.
> 8) From Cooke's flora. the size of flower is a good additional
> differentiating character.
>
>    Drupe size of a cherry; scarlet when ripe
> ...............................................................F. Montana
> Drupe size of a plum; purple when
> ripe…………………………………………………………………F.cataphracta
> Drupe size of a pea;
> Stigmas  5-11………………………………………………………………………………………………………….F.Ramontchii
> Stigmas   3-4……………………………………………………………………………………………………………F.latifolia
> 9) In all the above species the thorns do not bear flowers and fruits.Cooke
> mentions about one species
> which bears flowers and fruits on thorns as F.sepiaria
> Now I have to go to the species and check for female flowers; check for the
> young twigs to see whether they are glabrous ortomentose.....hmmmmm
> and *also take some leaves for drying to see whether they turn brown.I
> think I had kept some twigs for 2 days which dried but did not turn brown.
> *Dr Phadke”
>
>
>
> “This could be a male plant of *Flacourtia ramontchi*.
> We have discussed this earlier also, I think. *Again there is difference
> of opinion about its synonymy with F. indica*.
> Regards
> Vijayasankar Raman”
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Satish Phadke* 
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> >
> Date: 23 January 2011 14:52
> Subject: [efloraofindia:60966] Flacourtia species for ID.
> To: indiantreepix 
> <[email protected]<http://in.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> >
>
>
> I think this is* Flacourtia latifolia* T.Cooke. Please validate.
> A small tree flowering presently (23 Jan 2010) on Vetal Tekdi Pune.
> Armed with sharp spines. Leaves ovate, obovate alternate with serrate
> margins red petiole.
> Flowers yellow with many stamens. No styles or stigmas visible. Size 0.5 cm
> or so. in small racemes.
> Dr Phadke
>
>
>
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