For last few days I have been trying to find some reliable differences between three Himalayan species, but frankly not much to choose, although S. adnata and S. chinensis (syn: S. javanica, S. hookeri) are distributed Nepal eastwards and S. wightiana in Western Himalayas. S. chinensis is also distinct in upper pair of leaflets not decurrent at base and 2-4 glandular teeth on lateral leaflets. S. adnata and S. wightiana are closely similar but latter has large stipules, not found in former. Here are few images of S. adnata:
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=87583&flora_id=800 http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=87585&flora_id=800 http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=87591&flora_id=800 Under these circumstances, it feels reasonable to treat your plant as S. wightiana. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Alok ji > I had a second look at your Kalatope plant. > > > https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/425e638e478172fa/ad1f0d4edaa77e0d?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Sambucus+wightiana+Kalatope#ad1f0d4edaa77e0d > > It appears to be an umbellifer, perhaps Heracleum candicans. Please upload > in separate thread if you have some better photographs of that. > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Alok Mahendroo <alokisabe...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Sir I thought it looked different from the first Sambucus wightiana id'd >> from kalatope 'id al270411a' >> regards >> Alok.. >> >> On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 20:46 -0700, Tanay Bose wrote: >> > Sambucus wightiana >> > Tanay >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > Sambucus wightiana >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > Retired Associate Professor >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Alok Mahendroo >> > <alokisabe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Dear friends, >> > >> > Pangi was dry... and dusty (due to excessive >> > road-making) and with no >> > rains... a lot of flowers and shrubs have been buried >> > under rampant >> > debris dumping... I am sure that a lot of species >> > would be lost if this >> > carries on.... >> > >> > Location Pangi valley >> > Altitude 2000 mts >> > Habit herb >> > Habitat wild >> > Height 3 feet >> > >> > regards >> > Alok >> > -- >> > Himalayan Village Education Trust >> > Village Khudgot, >> > P.O. Dalhousie >> > District Chamba >> > H.P. 176304, India >> > >> > www.hivetrust.wordpress.com >> > www.forwildlife.wordpress.com >> > >> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Tanay Bose >> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant. >> > Department of Botany. >> > University of British Columbia . >> > 3529-6270 University Blvd. >> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) >> > 604-822-2019 (Lab) >> > 604-822-6089 (Fax) >> > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca >> > >> > Webpages: >> > http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html >> > http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html >> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Himalayan Village Education Trust >> Village Khudgot, >> P.O. Dalhousie >> District Chamba >> H.P. 176304, India >> >> www.hivetrust.wordpress.com >> www.forwildlife.wordpress.com >> >> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186 >> > > > >