Dear H S If you don't believe single seeded diagnosis of Kosteletzia, although the whole world believes, I think no one can help you. Be happy with you conclusions. This forum is meant for frank discussions based on evidence and reasoning, but if you think you are closed to reasoning, I think it is your wish. If you still insist on Cassia uniflora (a name which does not exist), it is your luck, and I can't help you.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:56 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: > > sorry to say but i dont rely on his identification since he give further > refrences of some photographic books,,, that makes us understand from where > he has checked his photos or confirmed with... no doubt that the quality of > photos are quite good.. but identification of western Indian plant are not > 100 percent.. so how can one reliable on his id.. > > and I still dont agree with H. vitifolius, since iut shows angular > capsule.. which is the character of Kosteletzia.. > > and coming to Cassia, that plant is surely not C. absus which people have > concluded.. > > I believe in Original local work instead of following Western World > people... > > > regards, > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I think it is the problem of the person who has doubts, and should find >> the solution, rather than forcing/asking the person who is sure about >> identification to provide him information. >> >> I did do the investigation when doubts were created about Hibiscus >> vitifolius, Casia uniflora. Experts should give expert opinion with >> justification and not just give their verdict. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> -- >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:51 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> If someone doesnt want to put the details, its his choice, but i think >>> when there are similar looking species in the same genus it would help to >>> understand species in more details.. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Gurcharan Singh >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> The first line should read >>>> >>>> We are not supposed to provide detailed description of the plant which >>>> is already identified by the author. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear H S >>>>> We are supposed to provide detailed description of the plant which is >>>>> already identified by the author. It implies that he has checked the >>>>> description of the plant before uploading. The details of plants are >>>>> necessary for those who are uploading plants for ID. We should be happy >>>>> that >>>>> a person who already knows about his plant is sharing it with with. If you >>>>> have your doubts you should highlight your doubts, rather than asking the >>>>> author to give you details. >>>>> It would rather be good for you that when you contradict some >>>>> identification, you should give reasons rather than a usual one line >>>>> decision. We should justify our decision, especially when we are >>>>> contradicting others. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks HS for wanting to validate the plant ID. >>>>>> As said earlier, I am not querying IDs of photos put in the posts with >>>>>> subject line having words "Names of Plants in India" >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are details: >>>>>> A small herb, standing about 30-50 cm tall. >>>>>> Saw them colonising in spaces near rock walls, rock stairways, >>>>>> normally under cover of large trees. >>>>>> Flowers tiny, had , about a 10 - 12 mm long X 3 - 4 mm wide; hard time >>>>>> capturing the pale blue colour blending to pure white. >>>>>> These are on a long raceme, about 10 - 15 cm. >>>>>> All of them grew along one side of the main stalk. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know one species of *Rhynchoglossum* that is confusing >>>>>> close to this *R. obliquum*. >>>>>> Will help me understand both of them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:41 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Please also provide the detail character of the plant for >>>>>>> confirmation of the species,, there are more species of Rhynchoglossum >>>>>>> look >>>>>>> similar to this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Prashant awale <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interesting find Dinesh. Never seen this plant before. Thanks for >>>>>>>> sharing. >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Prashant >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> via >>>>>>>>> Species<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> >>>>>>>>> > R<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/r> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Rhynchoglossum obliquum* Blume >>>>>>>>> [image: Rhynchoglossum obliquum >>>>>>>>> Blume]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/6226492937/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: Flowers of >>>>>>>>> India]<http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Small%20Flowered%20Rhynchoglossum.html> >>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>> Discussions at >>>>>>>>> efloraofindia]<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Rhynchoglossum%20obliquum> >>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>> more views in >>>>>>>>> flickr]<http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Rhynchoglossumobliquum&m=tags&z=m> >>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>> more views on Google >>>>>>>>> Earth]<http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Rhynchoglossumobliquum&format=kml_nl> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *rin-koh-GLOSS-um* -- from the Greek *rhynchos* (beak), and * >>>>>>>>> glossus* (tongue) >>>>>>>>> *oh-BLIK-wum* -- diagonal; referring to the slant leaf base >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: Ceylon >>>>>>>>> rhynchoglossum<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/ceylon-rhynchoglossum>, >>>>>>>>> small flowered >>>>>>>>> rhynchoglossum<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/small-flowered-rhynchoglossum>• >>>>>>>>> *Malayalam*: >>>>>>>>> kalu-tali<https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/kalu-tali> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Rhynchoglossum obliquum* Blume ... *synonyms*: >>>>>>>>> *Antonia obliqua* (Blume) R.Br. • *Loxotis intermedia* Benth. • >>>>>>>>> *Loxotis >>>>>>>>> obliqua* (Blume) R.Br. • *Rhynchoglossum hologlossum* Hayata • >>>>>>>>> *Rhynchoglossum >>>>>>>>> zeylanicum* Hook. • *Wulfenia obliqua* Wall. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>>>>>>>> ~ ~ ~ ~ >>>>>>>>> Photographed at Koraigad (~2870 ft asl) near Ambavane village, >>>>>>>>> Maharashtra ... 08 OCT 2011 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> - H.S. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere >>>>>>> heart of stone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> - H.S. >>> >>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart >>> of stone >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > - H.S. > > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of > stone > >
