well said and expressed... my frustration with herbal medicine was the other way around...like in your example of Palak...]
to many regional names in too many books ..authors of which claimed to be experts and if they were also examiners or their pet students were examiners ..that was a terror.... so I am very grateful for the scientific binomials, they have brought some semblance of order... although their work goes on... and on.. to further refinement of classification ... usha di ======= On Oct 18, 12:41 pm, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Bhat ji > Just showing desperation does not help. I have been teaching my students for > last four decades that correct names of tomato is Lycopersicon esculentum, > and it had in fact been given a seal of stability (we call it nomen > conservandum in technical language). All the three editions of my book had > one full page justifying it, but we find it being named it as Solanum > lycopercum (in fact the oldest name). I had described several new species > and given new names to some, but a few are now changed. I did not get > frustrated because I knew that thousands of researchers all around the world > are working day and night to tell us how much similarity there is between > the plants or which names are to be used based on rules of scientific > naming. Let us be grateful to them for bringing the science to order, and > not show our frustration. No one is trying to show superiority. If updating > information is the show of authority, perhaps it can't be helped. If we want > to remain happy with local names, a safeda to me and you here in warmer > India is Eucalyptus, but Populus for a Kashmiri who has not seen Eucalyptus > in valley. I don't know that Palak that we eat in Delhi and other states is > not Spinach (botanically Spinacea oleracea), it is a variety of beet. Not 5 > per cent of Palak sold in Indian markets is Spinach. Whom do we blame for > this, because we call both as Palak. Let us spread knowledge on this group > and not blame others or show our frustration on others. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Anand Kumar Bhatt > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is the rationale behind changing the names of plants without any rhyme > > or reason. This is such irritant for a layman like me. You fix a name in > > your mnd, and suddenly somebody informs yu that the new name is noot XYZ but > > XYZ1. Is this the way to maintain the superiority of the subject expert? > > AK > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> Urararia alopecuroides was earlier under U. lapopus DC. (FBI 2: 156), now > >> considered as synonym of > > >> *Uraria* *lagopodoides* (L.) DC > > >> Yes this could be possible as most leaves are simple (rather unifoliate) > > >> -- > >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >> Retired Associate Professor > >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:49 AM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> I guess Uraria alopecuroides > > >>> regards, > > >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Gurcharan Singh > >>> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: > > >>>> “Looks like *Uraria crinita*, to me. > >>>> Regards > >>>> Vijayasankar Raman” > > >>>> -- > >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>>> From: Pudji Widodo <[email protected]> > >>>> Date: Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:57 PM > >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:67743] Like Squirrel Tail > >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > >>>> Dear Friends, > > >>>> Could you help me ID the following plant please. > > >>>> A shrub, ca 1 m tall. Leaves opposite, oblong. Inflorescence like > >>>> squirrel tail, whitish. Seeds black. At low altitude (0-60 m asl). > > >>>> Thank you > > >>>> Pudji Widodo > > >>> -- > >>> - H.S. > > >>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart > >>> of stone > > > -- > > Anand Kumar Bhatt > > A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road > > Gwalior. 474 005. > > Tele: 0751-247 2233. Mobile 0 94253 09780. > > My blogsite is at: > >http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com > > (A NEW BLOG has been ADDED ON 9 August 2011.) > > And the photo site: > >www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/ > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/>(NEW PHOTOS HAVE BEEN ADDED ON 15 > > March 2011.) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Ten most common surnames of Indians: Singh, Kumar, Sharma, Patel, Shah, > > Lal, Gupta, Bhat, Rao, Reddy. Cheers!
