thanks Swamy ji for your wonderful comments, but i am just a learning taxonomy student, whereas Sirji is the most experienced taxonomist on the Group...
thanks once again.. On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote: > Gurucharan ji and Hemson ji, > Wonderful interpretation, rather clarification by both the taxonomists. > This is really helpful for all the non-taxonomists. > Regards, > Mahadeswara swamy,Ph.D > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Bhat ji >> Just showing desperation does not help. I have been teaching my students >> for last four decades that correct names of tomato is Lycopersicon >> esculentum, and it had in fact been given a seal of stability (we call it >> nomen conservandum in technical language). All the three editions of my book >> had one full page justifying it, but we find it being named it as Solanum >> lycopercum (in fact the oldest name). I had described several new species >> and given new names to some, but a few are now changed. I did not get >> frustrated because I knew that thousands of researchers all around the world >> are working day and night to tell us how much similarity there is between >> the plants or which names are to be used based on rules of scientific >> naming. Let us be grateful to them for bringing the science to order, and >> not show our frustration. No one is trying to show superiority. If updating >> information is the show of authority, perhaps it can't be helped. If we want >> to remain happy with local names, a safeda to me and you here in warmer >> India is Eucalyptus, but Populus for a Kashmiri who has not seen Eucalyptus >> in valley. I don't know that Palak that we eat in Delhi and other states is >> not Spinach (botanically Spinacea oleracea), it is a variety of beet. Not 5 >> per cent of Palak sold in Indian markets is Spinach. Whom do we blame for >> this, because we call both as Palak. Let us spread knowledge on this group >> and not blame others or show our frustration on others. >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Anand Kumar Bhatt < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> What is the rationale behind changing the names of plants without any >>> rhyme or reason. This is such irritant for a layman like me. You fix a name >>> in your mnd, and suddenly somebody informs yu that the new name is noot XYZ >>> but XYZ1. Is this the way to maintain the superiority of the subject expert? >>> AK >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Urararia alopecuroides was earlier under U. lapopus DC. (FBI 2: 156), >>>> now considered as synonym of >>>> >>>> *Uraria* *lagopodoides* (L.) DC >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes this could be possible as most leaves are simple (rather unifoliate) >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:49 AM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I guess Uraria alopecuroides >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>> >>>>>> “Looks like *Uraria crinita*, to me. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman” >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Pudji Widodo <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:57 PM >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:67743] Like Squirrel Tail >>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you help me ID the following plant please. >>>>>> >>>>>> A shrub, ca 1 m tall. Leaves opposite, oblong. Inflorescence like >>>>>> squirrel tail, whitish. Seeds black. At low altitude (0-60 m asl). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> Pudji Widodo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> - H.S. >>>>> >>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart >>>>> of stone >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Anand Kumar Bhatt >>> A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road >>> Gwalior. 474 005. >>> Tele: 0751-247 2233. Mobile 0 94253 09780. >>> My blogsite is at: >>> http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com >>> (A NEW BLOG has been ADDED ON 9 August 2011.) >>> And the photo site: >>> www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/ >>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/>(NEW PHOTOS HAVE BEEN ADDED ON 15 >>> March 2011.) >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Ten most common surnames of Indians: Singh, Kumar, Sharma, Patel, Shah, >>> Lal, Gupta, Bhat, Rao, Reddy. Cheers! >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- - H.S. A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of stone
