Also in typical specimens of T. laurifolia, the leaves are almost unlobed, rounded at base, and 3-nerved from base. They are deeply cordate, somwhat lobed or toothed along margin and 3-5 nerved from base.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ushadi > Three features differentiate the species, lanceolate leaves usually less > than 12 cm long and pedicel 2cm long in T. laurifolia. Here are typical > plants > > > http://raksaherbs.com/product/Thunbergia-Laurifolia-capsule/Thunbergia-Laurifolia-capsule-P0120.html > > > http://cookislands.bishopmuseum.org/showImage.asp?file=MM/MX1-4/4P300_Thun-laur_RR_GM_MX.jpg&title=Thunbergia+laurifolia++%28Purple+Thunbergia%29&height=400&width=600 > > Leaves ovate-cordate, up to 20 cm long, pedicel 4-5 cm long in T. > grandiflora > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Acanthaceae$20Week:$20Thunbergia$20grandiflora$20from$20Delhi/indiantreepix/EzseeCmIDok/1Sp_JHeotmwJ > > The first photograph (leaves) and second (pedicels) suggest T. laurifolia > clearly, other photographs create some doubt. > > I some how have the feeling that most photographs on the net, including > above one may not be a hybrids betwen the two species, as is also true for > Campsis grandiflora and C. radicans, where these hybrids are placed with > either species in most databases, including our FOI. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:32 AM, ushadi Micromini < > microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Gurcharanji: >> May I please hear from you... >> the leaves are different in two pics... >> >> I am confident if the opinions are based on analysis of both the leaf >> shapes... >> >> Please tell what and why? >> Thanks. >> >> Usha di >> ============ >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Agree with Thunbergia laurifolia >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > I think Thunbergia laurifolia as the leaves are slightly >>> toothed. Also, the >>> > base of the leaves is slightly heart-shaped or obtuse. >>> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:48 PM, ushadi Micromini >>> > <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Ved ji: >>> >> good.. >>> >> i know it takes little getting used to new groups but >>> >> once you get it it becomes a nice habit. >>> >> >>> >> usha di >>> >> >>> >> ============== >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Vedprakash Singh >>> >> <vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> a good one from u at last, thanQ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:33 PM, ushadi Micromini >>> >>> <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> yes you did very well.. >>> >>>> photo size need to be reduced..pixels I mean .. to be total of about >>> >>>> 150-180 kb .. >>> >>>> google gives us just so much space as a group... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> thanks >>> >>>> its so good when information and submission are within guidelines, >>> >>>> then the experts only have to think about the id... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thank you. >>> >>>> Usha di >>> >>>> ======== >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Vedprakash Singh >>> >>>> <vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> u'll be happy today - i gave max details .i realized it .hope >>> photo >>> >>>>> quality is OK >>> >>>>> v p singh >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ushadi micromini >>> >>>>> <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On second thought I am now confused... >>> >>>>>> looked at the leaves again >>> >>>>>> leaves in pic 1 and two have somewhat different shapes... >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> cant rule out * Thunbergia laurifolia...* >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Gurcharanji and Dinesh ji.... HELP >>> >>>>>> Usha di >>> >>>>>> =============== >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Nov 17, 3:14 pm, Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com> >>> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> > I think its Thunbergia grandiflora >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > usha di >>> >>>>>> > ====== >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > On Nov 17, 3:03 pm, Vedprakash Singh <vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com> >>> >>>>>> > wrote: >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Date/Time- *11:30 Noon* >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *Gram Vigyan Vidyalaya, >>> Wardha, >>> >>>>>> > > 20* 44' >>> >>>>>> > > 39.15" N - 78* 36' 09.58"* >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- *Garden* >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- *Climber* >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Height/Length- *Wall of 7' height supporting the Climber* >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- *Photo attached* >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Inflorescence Type/ Size- >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- *1.5" ~ 2.5"/ Light Blue* >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *No >>> >>>>>> > > Fragrance* >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > DSCN6978.JPG >>> >>>>>> > > 1009KViewDownload >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > DSCN6979.JPG >>> >>>>>> > > 990KViewDownload >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > DSCN6974.JPG >>> >>>>>> > > 946KViewDownload >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > > DSCN6981.JPG >>> >>>>>> > > 902KViewDownload >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Regards >>> > Dr.Bhagyashri Ranade >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> >>> Dr Balkar Singh >>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>> Haryana-132103 >>> 09416262964 >>> >> >> > > >