Concluding this posted plant to be *Senna sulfurea* (Collad.) H.S.Irwin & Barneby ... discussed at https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/J1oMl3KjS18 Regards. Dinesh
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Satish ji, > > Code has no provisions for guiding us whether all species should be placed > in Cassia, or those with all ten fertile stamens under Senna. Code also has > no control over whether taxonomic synonyms like C. glauca and C. > surattensis should be treated as synonyms or distinct species, or else else > distinct subspecies within same species. Code here helps us how to choose > names. > > We would be better placed to follow GRIN, Kew World checklist, and our > consensus, when database is updated. > > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College > University of Delhi, Delhi > India > http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45 <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "satish pardeshi" < > [email protected]> > To: "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>; "indiantreepix" < > indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com <[email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:24 PM > Subject: [indiantreepix:17505] Re: Fw: [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... > Cassia ¿ species ? > > > > > Hello Dinesh Ji > i say that Cassia is preffered over Senna > please visit following link > http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-**bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?9339<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?9339> > > it is the rules and articles of ICBN-International code of Botanical > Nomenclature that decides the accepted names of a genus or a species > or a family. > there are many articles of the code and the plant name which is > validly published as on 1 may 1753 were considered valid and correct. > however there were many ammendements done the outsoming were mentioned > as code. > the latest of which is Vienna 2005. > if a plant name or a genus is (not validly) published then that the > later name of the same plant or the genus which is validly published > (at an later date) is given priority over the previously not validly > published name. thats why we have two or more names of same plants. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**International_Code_of_** > Botanical_Nomenclature<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Code_of_Botanical_Nomenclature> > http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/**nomenclature/code/default.htm<http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclature/code/default.htm> > http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/**nomenclature/code/SaintLouis/** > 0000St.Luistitle.htm<http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclature/code/SaintLouis/0000St.Luistitle.htm> > > regards > Satish Pardeshi > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Dinesh Valke<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Many thanks, Satish ji, for validating the ID and providing its specifics. >> Current accepted name would be Senna surattensis (as Tabish has already >> pointed earlier in this thread). >> >> How do we follow current accepted names in India ? >> Is there any body in India which regulates / maintains such information >> and >> knowledge ? >> If there is, does it imply that there would be chance that a species is >> known by different names across the world, at any given time ? >> >> Please respond only at your leisure. >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Pardeshi S. <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello all >>> it is >>> Cassia glauca Lamk., Encyclop. Meth. Bot. 1: 647, 1785; Baker in >>> Hook.f., Fl. Brit. Ind. 2: 265, 1879; Cooke, Fl. Pres. Bombay 1: 453, >>> 1958 (Repr.); Almeida, Fl. Mah. 2: 179, 1998. >>> Synonyms: Senna sulphurea (DC. ex Collard) Irwin and Barneby in Mem. >>> New York Bot. Gard. 35(1): 78, 1982; Pradhan et al, Fl. SGNP 244, >>> 2005. C. surattensis Burm. f. ssp. glauca (Lamk.) K. & S. Larsen, Fl. >>> C.L.V. 18: 102, 1980; Singh et al, Fl. Mah. St. 1: 790, 1996. C. >>> arborescens Vahl, Symb. Bot. 3: 56, 1794. C. sulphurea DC ex Collad. >>> Hist. Nat. Med. Casses 84, 1816. Robinia javanica Burm. f. Fl. Ind. >>> 163, 1768 (non C. javanica L., 1753). Senna arborescens Roxb. Fl. Ind. >>> 2: 345, 1832. C. fastigiata Vahl. Symb. 3: 57, 1974. >>> Common names: Karud, Motha-tarved. >>> >>> C. surattensis is a synonym of C. glauca. >>> the pod with a beak at the other end is one of a diagnosing character >>> very important diagnosing character is ALL 10 STAMENS ARE FERTILE. >>> stalked glands present on the rachis at lowermost 2-3 pairs of >>> leaflets >>> >>> i hope this may clear the doubts abt ID. >>> >>> Regards >>> Satish Pardeshi >>> >>> On Sep 3, 7:29 am, Nayan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Sorry Gurcharan Singh ji, troubling you, in the other thread of the > >>> same >>> > topic i came to know that new name of Cassia glauca is Senna > >>> surattensis, >>> > my confusion is now clear. >>> > thanks >>> > N.S.Dungriyal IFS >>> > Chief Conservator of Forests >>> > and Field Director >>> > Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad >>> > M.P. >>> > 09424792100 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Forwarded Message ---- >>> > From: Nayan Singh <[email protected]> >>> > To: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>> > >>> > Cc: indiantreepix >>> > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> >>> > >>> > Sent: Thursday, 3 September, 2009 7:22:22 AM >>> > Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? >>> > >>> > Gurcharan ji yesterday i id it as Cassia glauca, but some how it is >>> > missing in the thread, what do you think about my this wild guess? >>> > thanks >>> > N.S.Dungriyal IFS >>> > Chief Conservator of Forests >>> > and Field Director >>> > Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad >>> > M.P. >>> > 09424792100 >>> > >>> > ______________________________**__ >>> > From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>> > To: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>; Kenneth Greby >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > Cc: Indian Tree Pix >>> > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]>>; >>> Dinesh Valke >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > Sent: Thursday, 3 September, 2009 12:19:53 AM >>> > Subject: [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? >>> > >>> > Not Cassia fistula atleast which has distinctive cylindrical long pods. >>> > This >>> > one seems more probably C. surratensis, the only thing that looks >>> > different >>> > to me is the thin long stalk of pod. The specimens in our garden don't >>> > have >>> > such long stalks. Leaves and flowers resemble. >>> > >>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> > Associate Professor >>> > SGTB Khalsa College >>> > University of Delhi, Delhi >>> > Indiahttp://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Yazdy Palia" <[email protected]> >>> > To: "Kenneth Greby" <[email protected]> >>> > Cc: "Indian Tree Pix" >>> > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]>>; >>> "Dinesh Valke" >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:11 PM >>> > Subject: [indiantreepix:17443] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? >>> > >>> > Hello friends, >>> > could it be cassia fistula? Please check >>> > uphttp://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Golden_Shower_Tree<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shower_Tree> >>> > Regards >>> > Yazdy. >>> > >>> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kenneth Greby<[email protected]> > >>> wrote: >>> > > Dinesh-- >>> > >>> > > I don't believe that this is Senna spectabilis (Syn S. excelsa, S. >>> > > carnaval) due to the flattened seedpods. S. spectabilis has roundish >>> > > to >>> > > squared (in cross-section) pods with some muscilage present. >>> > >>> > > This looks closer to S. surattensis, but I am not positive of that > >>> > ID. >>> > >>> > > Regards-- >>> > > Ken Greby. >>> > >>> > > --- On Wed, 9/2/09, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> > > Subject: [indiantreepix:17425] ... Cassia ¿ species ? >>> > > To: "Indian Tree Pix" >>> > > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> >>> > >>> > > Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:20 AM >>> > >>> > > Hello friends, >>> > >>> > > A large shrub of Cassia planted along an avenue near Yeoor Hills, >>> > > photos >>> > > taken on 22 AUG 09. >>> > >>> > > My friend Ajinkya Gadave has already commented in Flickr about this >>> > > plant >>> > > to >>> > > be Cassia spectabilis. >>> > > Please validate ID. >>> > >>> > > Regards. >>> > >>> > ______________________________**__ >>> > Love Cricket? 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