Agreed Diesh ji
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Concluding this posted plant to be *Senna sulfurea* (Collad.) H.S.Irwin & > Barneby ... discussed at > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/J1oMl3KjS18 > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Satish ji, >> >> Code has no provisions for guiding us whether all species should be >> placed in Cassia, or those with all ten fertile stamens under Senna. Code >> also has no control over whether taxonomic synonyms like C. glauca and C. >> surattensis should be treated as synonyms or distinct species, or else else >> distinct subspecies within same species. Code here helps us how to choose >> names. >> >> We would be better placed to follow GRIN, Kew World checklist, and our >> consensus, when database is updated. >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College >> University of Delhi, Delhi >> India >> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45 <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "satish pardeshi" < >> [email protected]> >> To: "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>; "indiantreepix" < >> indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com <[email protected]>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:24 PM >> Subject: [indiantreepix:17505] Re: Fw: [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... >> Cassia ¿ species ? >> >> >> >> >> Hello Dinesh Ji >> i say that Cassia is preffered over Senna >> please visit following link >> http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-**bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?9339<http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?9339> >> >> it is the rules and articles of ICBN-International code of Botanical >> Nomenclature that decides the accepted names of a genus or a species >> or a family. >> there are many articles of the code and the plant name which is >> validly published as on 1 may 1753 were considered valid and correct. >> however there were many ammendements done the outsoming were mentioned >> as code. >> the latest of which is Vienna 2005. >> if a plant name or a genus is (not validly) published then that the >> later name of the same plant or the genus which is validly published >> (at an later date) is given priority over the previously not validly >> published name. thats why we have two or more names of same plants. >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**International_Code_of_** >> Botanical_Nomenclature<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Code_of_Botanical_Nomenclature> >> http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/**nomenclature/code/default.htm<http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclature/code/default.htm> >> http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/**nomenclature/code/SaintLouis/** >> 0000St.Luistitle.htm<http://www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclature/code/SaintLouis/0000St.Luistitle.htm> >> >> regards >> Satish Pardeshi >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Dinesh Valke<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Many thanks, Satish ji, for validating the ID and providing its >>> specifics. >>> Current accepted name would be Senna surattensis (as Tabish has already >>> pointed earlier in this thread). >>> >>> How do we follow current accepted names in India ? >>> Is there any body in India which regulates / maintains such information >>> and >>> knowledge ? >>> If there is, does it imply that there would be chance that a species is >>> known by different names across the world, at any given time ? >>> >>> Please respond only at your leisure. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Pardeshi S. <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hello all >>>> it is >>>> Cassia glauca Lamk., Encyclop. Meth. Bot. 1: 647, 1785; Baker in >>>> Hook.f., Fl. Brit. Ind. 2: 265, 1879; Cooke, Fl. Pres. Bombay 1: 453, >>>> 1958 (Repr.); Almeida, Fl. Mah. 2: 179, 1998. >>>> Synonyms: Senna sulphurea (DC. ex Collard) Irwin and Barneby in Mem. >>>> New York Bot. Gard. 35(1): 78, 1982; Pradhan et al, Fl. SGNP 244, >>>> 2005. C. surattensis Burm. f. ssp. glauca (Lamk.) K. & S. Larsen, Fl. >>>> C.L.V. 18: 102, 1980; Singh et al, Fl. Mah. St. 1: 790, 1996. C. >>>> arborescens Vahl, Symb. Bot. 3: 56, 1794. C. sulphurea DC ex Collad. >>>> Hist. Nat. Med. Casses 84, 1816. Robinia javanica Burm. f. Fl. Ind. >>>> 163, 1768 (non C. javanica L., 1753). Senna arborescens Roxb. Fl. Ind. >>>> 2: 345, 1832. C. fastigiata Vahl. Symb. 3: 57, 1974. >>>> Common names: Karud, Motha-tarved. >>>> >>>> C. surattensis is a synonym of C. glauca. >>>> the pod with a beak at the other end is one of a diagnosing character >>>> very important diagnosing character is ALL 10 STAMENS ARE FERTILE. >>>> stalked glands present on the rachis at lowermost 2-3 pairs of >>>> leaflets >>>> >>>> i hope this may clear the doubts abt ID. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Satish Pardeshi >>>> >>>> On Sep 3, 7:29 am, Nayan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Sorry Gurcharan Singh ji, troubling you, in the other thread of the > >>>> same >>>> > topic i came to know that new name of Cassia glauca is Senna > >>>> surattensis, >>>> > my confusion is now clear. >>>> > thanks >>>> > N.S.Dungriyal IFS >>>> > Chief Conservator of Forests >>>> > and Field Director >>>> > Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad >>>> > M.P. >>>> > 09424792100 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ----- Forwarded Message ---- >>>> > From: Nayan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> > To: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> > Cc: indiantreepix >>>> > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> > Sent: Thursday, 3 September, 2009 7:22:22 AM >>>> > Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? >>>> > >>>> > Gurcharan ji yesterday i id it as Cassia glauca, but some how it is >>>> > missing in the thread, what do you think about my this wild guess? >>>> > thanks >>>> > N.S.Dungriyal IFS >>>> > Chief Conservator of Forests >>>> > and Field Director >>>> > Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad >>>> > M.P. >>>> > 09424792100 >>>> > >>>> > ______________________________**__ >>>> > From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> > To: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>; Kenneth Greby >>>> > <[email protected]> >>>> > Cc: Indian Tree Pix >>>> > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]>>; >>>> Dinesh Valke >>>> > <[email protected]> >>>> > Sent: Thursday, 3 September, 2009 12:19:53 AM >>>> > Subject: [indiantreepix:17454] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? >>>> > >>>> > Not Cassia fistula atleast which has distinctive cylindrical long >>>> pods. >>>> > This >>>> > one seems more probably C. surratensis, the only thing that looks >>>> > different >>>> > to me is the thin long stalk of pod. The specimens in our garden don't >>>> > have >>>> > such long stalks. Leaves and flowers resemble. >>>> > >>>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> > Associate Professor >>>> > SGTB Khalsa College >>>> > University of Delhi, Delhi >>>> > Indiahttp://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45> >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "Yazdy Palia" <[email protected]> >>>> > To: "Kenneth Greby" <[email protected]> >>>> > Cc: "Indian Tree Pix" >>>> > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]>>; >>>> "Dinesh Valke" >>>> > <[email protected]> >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:11 PM >>>> > Subject: [indiantreepix:17443] Re: ... Cassia ¿ species ? >>>> > >>>> > Hello friends, >>>> > could it be cassia fistula? Please check >>>> > uphttp://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Golden_Shower_Tree<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shower_Tree> >>>> > Regards >>>> > Yazdy. >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kenneth Greby<[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: >>>> > > Dinesh-- >>>> > >>>> > > I don't believe that this is Senna spectabilis (Syn S. excelsa, S. >>>> > > carnaval) due to the flattened seedpods. S. spectabilis has roundish >>>> > > to >>>> > > squared (in cross-section) pods with some muscilage present. >>>> > >>>> > > This looks closer to S. surattensis, but I am not positive of that >>>> > > ID. >>>> > >>>> > > Regards-- >>>> > > Ken Greby. >>>> > >>>> > > --- On Wed, 9/2/09, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> > > Subject: [indiantreepix:17425] ... Cassia ¿ species ? >>>> > > To: "Indian Tree Pix" >>>> > > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> > > Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:20 AM >>>> > >>>> > > Hello friends, >>>> > >>>> > > A large shrub of Cassia planted along an avenue near Yeoor Hills, >>>> > > photos >>>> > > taken on 22 AUG 09. >>>> > >>>> > > My friend Ajinkya Gadave has already commented in Flickr about this >>>> > > plant >>>> > > to >>>> > > be Cassia spectabilis. >>>> > > Please validate ID. >>>> > >>>> > > Regards. >>>> > >>>> > ______________________________**__ >>>> > Love Cricket? 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