Rakesh Ji Thanks for your thought provoking mail If we discuss the problems with indian system of education, i think that will be like finding a needle in well. 5 years back we started a Society for Promotion of life sciences to raise the issues related with problems of lifescience students (so called Medical stream students in particularly in Haryana). we organised many meetings in different district headquarters of haryana to make people aware about various problems like need of change in nomenclature of degree, combination of subjects, improvement in syllabi, system of evaluation and many more. after 4-5 years we have to go to aikantvas >>>>>.. I think this matter we should discuss via personal mails not in group. interesting members who wish to give their valuable suggestion in general or particulars to strengthen the Biological sciences in India may pls sent to me directly not via group, so that we may prepare a good document on all suggestion. That we will be sharing with all Thanks and Wish you a Happy new Year to All
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Rakesh Biswas <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks everyone for this very interesting thread on 'education.' > > I am currently in Bandhavgarh with Satyendraji and Kay and we were just > sitting in their tree and bird laden garden having this conversation on > "the current problems in Indian Education" when i noticed this thread on > 'how to build a career given the current resources in the "Indian System of > Education." > > Balkar ji's last line of advice to Ankush actually for me highlights an > important 'problem' with Indian Education. > > Getting a good percentage in BSc is unfortunately currently based on a > student's rote memorization skills rather than his/her ability to engage > emotionally with his/her subject of interest (correct me if i am wrong)? > > I wonder what percentage of Indian students who could have done really > good research with their critical thinking and discovery based learning > abilities are unfortunately sidelined because of our current education > system's fascination with a student's rote memorization skills which is > essential to getting a good percentage? > > :-) > > regards, > > rakesh > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rakesh-biswas/5/893/988 > > PS: Also copied in bcc to a few other Indian Educationists to build on > this thread if possible. Thanks Usha di for the inspiring lines from > Campbell. I am sure some of our medical students from Kolkata ( who i have > copied in this email) would love to meet you in Kolkata and learn both > medicine and botany from you. Satyendra ji was just relating a very > interesting story about a US based Indian physician-surgeon who came to > Bandhavgarh and set up a medical camp and to his utter dismay found that > 80% of the villagers were just complaining of ' body itching' ( which was > not within his area of expertise) and Satyendraji communicated this to > Pankaj Oudhia ji (a group member here) who promptly suggested that the > villagers should rub this herb ('cassia tora' if i remember correctly) > which is anyway abundantly available in the region. The physician > communicated 80% of the villagers to rub this herb for itching and when he > came back from US a year later, Satyendra ji took him again to the > villagers who thanked the doctor profusely for having suggested the herb as > their most important problem (that of itching) had been taken care of. This > could be an interesting illustration of how modern day education systems > evolving through 'modern day communication' can cut across entrenched > disciplines and traditions and possibly some day have the power to > transform our field of education with a resultant improvement on human > quality of life? :-) > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Balkar Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Agree with Pankaj Ji, Ankush you have good interest in Botany. During >> Training in Hisar Your Teacher Dr Divya Jain also told me about >> your interest in Subject. You have to work hard to get Admission in a good >> University for M.Sc. Botany like DU, PU etc and you will also need good >> percentage at B.Sc. Level. Our best wishes are with you >> >> From: Ushadi micromini <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 5:47 AM > Subject: Re: guidance for future > > > Ankush : > > If you are undecided by now.... > you are not being pushed in one direction by family or friends > or personal ambition based on other's lives and status . > Thats a very good sign... a very good sign.. > > Joseph Campbell (who was responsible for the ultimate story line and > characters of the starwars trilogy of Lucas) was a professor in USA of > Mythology and our collective human wisdom and heritage... used to > say : follow your bliss... money and success will follow that... > google lucas, star wars and Joseph campbell...or go to wikipedia and > get the stories... > > to find what is your bliss... (Bliss: = your soul's propensity, > desires, needs, karmic fulfillment etc) > I have found that one can take many roads... one or all at the same > time.. > > 1: meditate and pay attention to what god is trying to tell you... > do not pray ..to ask... keep quiet so you can hear what the universe > or your own higher self is trying to convey to you... takes patience > and practice...may take months..but it always works > > 2: pay attention to what comes out of your own mouth or pen > ie what you talk about the most , or write the most > > 3: read books .. go to library repeatedly and notice which stacks you > always end up at > > 4: take tests.. there are many personality and eneagram like tests > that universities give to prospective students... I know Jadavpur > University in Kolkata gives one... but I dont have access to their > tests...top secret it seems, but I have seen their real life effects.. > very good effects... ask around there must be Councillors in your > part of India who can help... One test on the net is meyer > briggs ...but it costs to get results back... but you can research > it ... there are books on this test ... will classify you into a > line in life and then subclassify expertise that your personality is > suitable for... I find they are pretty good ... > > but as to your own soul's need and desire, only you know... and that > you only you can know or find out... > > 5: take some job... in a field you think you like... see if that gets > your imagination and enthusiasm going up..good.... otherwise quit and > move to some fresh field... do it while you are young... two or > three... jobs in different fields... young age you can be research > assistant etc... you are bound to find it > > Hope you find your path or two > > Usha di > ======== > > > >> >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Yes I agree with Usha mams words. Ankush should do what his heart >>> says. When I was studying, I think I am the only one of my whole >>> school batch chose botany. Please remember I am talking about around >>> over 400 students in one batch. But I remember collecting my first >>> orchid when I was may be standard 7 or so. At BSc also I had >>> opportunities for so called better subjects, but i refused and took >>> botany honors. During MSc every one thought that I will take taxonomy, >>> but by then I had already realised that there was no good taxo teacher >>> and I was satisfied with my abilities so I took genetics. Then for PhD >>> I worked on taxonomy, ecology, morphological development, flowering >>> phenology, ethnobotany.... I wanted to add more but my respected boss >>> asked me to leave something for others :))... >>> So the first point is to chose what your heart says >>> Second point is to put in all your abilities in your work. There >>> certainly will be a day when your work will speak for you and you dont >>> have to speak for your work. >>> Best wishes >>> Pankaj >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Balkar Singh <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Dear Ankush Soon i will send you a Powerpoint Presentation showing >>> > all best opportunities related to you >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Dec 28, 5:42 pm, Balkar Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > Pankaj Ji B SC Medical in Haryana means Graduation in Science with >>> >> > Botany >>> >> > Zoology and Chemistry as full subjects with equal weightage in all 3 >>> >> > years >>> >> > of graduation. Environmental studies, Computer Science and English >>> in >>> >> > only >>> >> > first year, hindi or Sanskrit in second year and in final only >>> botany >>> >> > chemistry and zoology >>> >> > >>> >> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>> >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > > B.sc. medical II year wht is that ? Where you a medical student or >>> >> > > simple >>> >> > > graduation? >>> >> > >>> >> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2011, ankush prakash >>> >> > > <[email protected]> >>> >> > > wrote: >>> >> > > > Respected members, >>> >> > > > HAPPY NEW YEAR IN ADVANCE >>> >> > >>> >> > > > My self Ankush Prakash. I am a student of B.sc. Medical IInd >>> >> > > > Year,S.D. >>> >> > > College,Ambala Cantt. >>> >> > > > Dear members please guide me what course I would opt after >>> B.Sc. so >>> >> > > > that >>> >> > > I can have a bright future. Should I go for M.Sc. or any other >>> course. >>> >> > > > My best subject is BOTANY and I want to go in research field. >>> >> > > > So please guide me what should I do after B.Sc. >>> >> > >>> >> > > > Regards, >>> >> > > > Ankush Prakash >>> >> > >>> >> > > -- >>> >> > > >>> ********************************************************************** >>> >> > > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>> >> > >>> >> > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>> >> > > Conservation Officer >>> >> > >>> >> > > Office: >>> >> > > Flora Conservation Department >>> >> > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> >> > > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> > >>> >> > > Residence: >>> >> > > 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>> >> > > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >> > >>> >> > > email: [email protected] >>> >> > > [email protected] >>> >> > > [email protected] >>> >> > > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >>> >> > > +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Regards >>> >> > >>> >> > Dr Balkar Singh >>> >> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>> >> > Arya P G College, Panipat >>> >> > Haryana-132103 >>> >> > 09416262964 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Regards >>> > >>> > Dr Balkar Singh >>> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>> > Arya P G College, Panipat >>> > Haryana-132103 >>> > 09416262964 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ********************************************************************** >>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>> >>> >>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>> Conservation Officer >>> >>> Office: >>> Orchid Conservation Section >>> Flora Conservation Department >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >>> Residence: >>> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >>> email: [email protected] >>> [email protected] >>> [email protected] >>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >>> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> Dr Balkar Singh >> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >> Arya P G College, Panipat >> Haryana-132103 >> 09416262964 >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. > -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
