Thanks Rakesh!!! ha ha ... I wonder what would Satyendra ji have to
say about your invitation to me!!!
q is would he ???  if he does invite, I would certainly come.
Usha di

On Jan 1, 8:07 pm, Rakesh Biswas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Usha di, You must visit Bandhavgarh and stay with Satyendra ji and
> his family. He has the most interesting variety of trees in his large
> garden visited by a host of butterflies and birds. He also took us out on
> his jeep for a ride through the jungle which was one of the best i have
> ever enjoyed.
>
> :-)
>
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Ushadi micromini <
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> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Rakesh:  I only included you in this because you are an
> > educationist...
> > not to propagandize myself...
> > am  learning botany/taxonomy right now..
>
> > anyway that plant used for itching is most likely cassia alata... may
> > not be cassia tora...
> > however I would not dare contradict mr Oudhia..  I prefer to keep my
> > hide..  :):) ..
>
> > I am not surprised the highly specialized physician did not know
> > anything about what to prescribe for skin itching...  most villagers
> > are farmers... farmers get many varieties of contact and photo-
> > dermatitis...and small skin parasites..   cassia alata is only grown
> > as an exotic in USA ... and not as a herbal plant of wonderful
> > usage...  and one has to go to local bot garden and dig in... but most
> > physicians have no time...  poor things...
>
> > anyway ... I envy you sitting in Bandhavgarh  today ... may be I'll
> > come next year...
>
> > Usha di
> > ======
>
> > From: Rakesh Biswas <[email protected]>
> > Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: guidance for future
> > To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
>
> > Thanks everyone for this very interesting thread on 'education.'
>
> > I am currently in Bandhavgarh with Satyendraji and Kay and we were just
> > sitting in their tree and bird laden garden having this conversation on
> > "the current problems in Indian Education" when i noticed this thread on
> > 'how to build a career given the current resources in the "Indian System of
> > Education."
>
> > Balkar ji's last line of advice to Ankush actually for me highlights an
> > important 'problem' with Indian Education.
>
> > Getting a good percentage in BSc is unfortunately currently based on a
> > student's rote memorization skills rather than his/her ability to engage
> > emotionally with his/her subject of interest (correct me if i am wrong)?
>
> > I wonder what percentage of Indian students who could have done really
> > good research with their critical thinking and discovery based learning
> > abilities are unfortunately sidelined because of our current education
> > system's fascination with a student's rote memorization skills which is
> > essential to getting a good percentage?
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> > :-)
>
> > regards,
>
> > rakesh
> >http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rakesh-biswas/5/893/988
>
> > PS: Also copied in bcc to a few other Indian Educationists to build on
> > this thread if possible. Thanks Usha di for the inspiring lines from
> > Campbell. I am sure some of our medical students from Kolkata ( who i have
> > copied in this email) would love to meet you in Kolkata and learn both
> > medicine and botany from you. Satyendra ji was just relating a very
> > interesting story about a US based Indian physician-surgeon who came to
> > Bandhavgarh and set up a medical camp and to his utter dismay found that
> > 80% of the villagers were just complaining of ' body itching' ( which was
> > not within his area of expertise) and Satyendraji communicated this to
> > Pankaj Oudhia ji (a group member here) who promptly suggested that the
> > villagers should rub this herb ('cassia tora' if i remember correctly)
> > which is anyway abundantly available in the region. The physician
> > communicated 80% of the villagers to rub this herb for itching and when he
> > came back from US a year later, Satyendra ji took him again to the
> > villagers who thanked the doctor profusely for having suggested the herb as
> > their most important problem (that of itching) had been taken care of. This
> > could be an interesting illustration of how modern day education systems
> > evolving through 'modern day communication' can cut across entrenched
> > disciplines and traditions and possibly some day have the power to
> > transform our field of education with a resultant improvement on human
> > quality of life? :-)
>
> > From: Ushadi micromini <[email protected]>
> > Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 5:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: guidance for future
> > To: efloraindia <[email protected]>
> > Cc: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>, Balkar Arya <
> > [email protected]>, "J. M. Garg" <[email protected]>, Pankaj Kumar <
> > [email protected]>, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]>, Rakesh
> > Biswas <[email protected]>, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>,
> > Neil Soares <[email protected]>
>
> > Ankush :
>
> > If you are undecided by now....
> > you are not being pushed in one direction by family or friends
> > or personal ambition based on other's lives and status .
> > Thats a very good sign...  a very good sign..
>
> > Joseph Campbell (who was responsible for the ultimate story line and
> > characters of the starwars trilogy of Lucas) was a professor in USA of
> > Mythology and our collective human wisdom and heritage... used to
> > say : follow your bliss... money and success will follow that...
> > google lucas, star wars and Joseph campbell...or go to wikipedia and
> > get the stories...
>
> > to find what is your bliss... (Bliss:  = your soul's propensity,
> > desires, needs, karmic fulfillment etc)
> > I have found that one can take many roads... one or all at the same
> > time..
>
> > 1: meditate   and pay attention to what god is trying to tell you...
> > do not pray ..to ask...  keep quiet so you can hear what the universe
> > or your own higher self is trying to convey to you...  takes patience
> > and practice...may take months..but it always works
>
> > 2: pay attention to what comes out of your own mouth or pen
> >             ie what you talk about the most , or write the most
>
> > 3: read books .. go to library repeatedly and notice which stacks you
> > always end up at
>
> > 4: take tests.. there are many personality and eneagram like tests
> > that universities give to prospective students...   I know Jadavpur
> > University in Kolkata gives one... but I dont have access to their
> > tests...top secret it seems, but I have seen their real life effects..
> > very good effects...  ask around there must be Councillors in your
> > part of India who can help...  One test on the net is meyer
> > briggs ...but it costs to get results back... but you can research
> > it ... there are books on this test  ...  will classify you into a
> > line in life and then subclassify expertise that  your personality is
> > suitable for... I find they are pretty good ...
>
> >  but as to your own soul's need and desire, only you know... and that
> > you only you can know or find out...
>
> > 5: take some job... in a field you think you like... see if that gets
> > your imagination and enthusiasm going up..good.... otherwise quit and
> > move to some fresh field... do it while you are young... two or
> > three... jobs in different fields... young age you can be research
> > assistant etc...   you are bound to find it
>
> > Hope you find your path or two
>
> > Usha di
> > ========

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