Pankaj ji I have written the letter to the two email IDs they have given. I will forward these letter to both of you plus the Group.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks for the correction. If you search the net you will find KFBG and > Kew just like synonyms. The book titled "The wild orchids of Hong Kong" > says every thing. > > Just thinking why we Indians are not capable of leading the world like > they are, having our brains? > > regards > > Pankaj Oudhia > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hahaha big sorry >> no the id is [email protected] >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hmm!! So he is from your corporation. >>> >>> That's why the effort is on to create "Honkongensis" in every orchid. >>> Native species and native knowledge can not be patented but by creating >>> this "Hongkongensis" it can be like Taxmati in place of our Basmati. >>> >>> It is good for their global business but very bad for the science of >>> Taxonomy. >>> >>> Come back to India Sir ji. They are using our best brains for naming >>> Indian species as "Honkongensis" >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Pankaj Oudhia >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Mr Govaerts is a nice person. He always replied to my mails when ever I >>>> needed. But it would be better if you select the Family expert for a >>>> species. The list of experts are given on following link. >>>> http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/compilersReviewers.do >>>> >>>> If you write to Indian Liaison Officer then usually they dont reply :P >>>> I would request Gurcharan sir to find the email ids of the expert and >>>> write to them. Mr. R. Govaerts id is: [email protected] >>>> >>>> Pankaj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Pankaj Oudhia >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well. Just checked the Kew List. >>>>> >>>>> http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/qsearch.do >>>>> >>>>> It seems confused like the Plant List.;( >>>>> >>>>> In fact, the plant list just copied the content of Kew. >>>>> >>>>> Any other source for try? >>>>> >>>>> It is better to invite R.Govaerts ji for real discussion. >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes sir. But my first concern I laid few months back when Plant List >>>>>> came into exsistence. I imagine why there was a need for Plant List when >>>>>> we >>>>>> already had Kew's Checklist. >>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Pankaj Oudhia < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The Plant List is quoted in our group so frequently. In this case >>>>>>> the statement made by both of us seems correct. If The Plant List is >>>>>>> itself >>>>>>> confused or in developing stage then I feel that it must not be quoted >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> scientific discussions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please give your comments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?name_id=57084 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This one sir. Irony is many of the scientists at both plant list >>>>>>>> and this link are common, but they have different opinion at different >>>>>>>> places, mainly because all dont pay attention to all of the taxa. Its a >>>>>>>> huge plant world out there after all, of which more than 50% still >>>>>>>> remains >>>>>>>> unexplored...... >>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Pankaj Oudhia < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your reply. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> May I know the exact references you are quoting so that I can >>>>>>>>> forward it to the mentor of the specific page at the Plant List for >>>>>>>>> correction. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Everything on internet (including The Plant List) cant be right >>>>>>>>>> sir. >>>>>>>>>> There was a huge discussion and some articles dealing with this >>>>>>>>>> issue after Dr. H.P.Wood changed the name of Dendrobium aphyllum to >>>>>>>>>> Dendrobium cucullatum. But recently there was another article by Mr. >>>>>>>>>> Andre >>>>>>>>>> Schuiteman which changed the names back based on relevant >>>>>>>>>> discussions. >>>>>>>>>> Many still believe that cucullatum, aphyllum, pierardii are same >>>>>>>>>> (Checklist of Monocots, Goaverts et al. 2012). So we should wait for >>>>>>>>>> further more discussions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Pankaj Oudhia < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The synonym (With 3 star confidence level) of Dendrobium >>>>>>>>>>> cucullatum is *Dendrobium* *pierardii* Roxb. ex >>>>>>>>>>> Hook.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-58701> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Another synonym is *Dendrobium* *aphyllum* var. *cucullatum* >>>>>>>>>>> (R.Br.) >>>>>>>>>>> P.K.Sarkar <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-57085> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But the confidence level is of only one star. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Source: http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-57520 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes now it is called Dendrobium aphyllum as before. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. >>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ********************************************************************** >>>>>>>>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>> Conservation Officer >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Office: >>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Residence: >>>>>>>>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>>>>>>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>>>>>> 6251(mobile). Fax: +852 >>>>>>>>>> 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ********************************************************************** >>>>>>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>>>>>> Conservation Officer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Office: >>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Residence: >>>>>>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>>>>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>>>> 6251(mobile). Fax: +852 >>>>>>>> 2483 7194 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ********************************************************************** >>>>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>>>> Conservation Officer >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: >>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>> >>>>>> Residence: >>>>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>> >>>>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>> 6251(mobile). Fax: +852 >>>>>> 2483 7194 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>> >>>> >>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>> Conservation Officer >>>> >>>> Office: >>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> Residence: >>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected] >>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). >>>> Fax: +852 >>>> 2483 7194 >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >> (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194 >> > >
