This is a nice idea Usha di. I had a similar brainstorm about these concepts with a Catalan colleague last year. For any given plant there can be also leaf, flower, root (especially in medicinal plants), derived extracts, products etc. I am thinking here of oil, essential oil, wax etc. In a presentation such as mine or Dinesh's in his well known listings it could add many extra lines. As far as databases are concerned it would probably mean extra fields. So for practical reasons I cannot really adopt this presentation. I find it hard enough keeping tracks of all the (masc.) (fem.) (sing.) (plur.) (prod.) etc. These listings are always a compromise unfortunately. We can only do the best we can. I will always warmly welcome your comments regarding gender, number, flower, leaf, tree, fruit etc. in Gujarati and any other language. As far as referencing I meant only how to acknowledge efloraofindia. Is there a standard citation or do we adapt to the subject matter? Thanks for these probing points
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:24:21 PM UTC+10, Ushadi wrote: > > Dear Michel/Mic/ Dr Porcher ( I have not the foggiest what I should use, > so bear with me) > > Quote:. Do you approve Usha di?: .... > Ans: ya, but I would separate the mother tree from the listing of the > fruits... and that rule should apply to all trees and their progeny.. I > think... no matter what others or books do, lets start a logical listing > ourselves... be a trend setter ourselves if others before us / you have > not done it... > You are a trend setter with your MMPND work ... so I think this should be > easy for your thinking process to accept... > > GUJARATI : *Fruits*: કોઠા (Kotha) Kottha (fruit-plur.), કોઠુ* *(Kothu) > Kotthu (fruit-sing.), કોહું Kohu (reg.dial). > > Tree: કોઠી (kothi) Kotthi (tree-fem.): tree that bears the fruits. > > And if MMPND must have refs pl let me know I'll type up the dictionary > names and books citations... when time permits > > and cheers to you too... > > Usha di > == > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:06 AM, ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> ok Mic is that a dr mr or dr ms porcher? >> and I count several languages as my native languages.... they were >> spoken at home and schools and schools that taught me the hobbies... >> >> Usha di >> ==== >> >> >> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:42 AM, OZmic <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Terribly sorry, another glitch in the computer program. >>> Based on the educated advice of Usha di (a native speaker I am guessing) >>> I propose the following entry for Gujarati names of Limonia acidissima L. >>> in all databases. >>> GUJARATI : કોઠા (Kotha) Khotta (fruit-plur.), કોઠી (kothi) Kotthi >>> (tree-fem.), કોઠુ* *(Kothu) Kotthu (fruit-sing.), કોહું Kohu >>> (reg.dial). >>> It includes all the information received so far. Job well done, thanks >>> to all involved. >>> Could we have a suggestion for the best way to cite this in outside >>> publications? I am keen to include this entry into the MMPND and I like to >>> give credit when credit is due. >>> Please Usha di call me Mic or Michel or make up a cute Gujarati >>> equivalent. >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 5:40:16 AM UTC+10, Dinesh Valke wrote: >>> >>>> *Limonia acidissima * L. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - ¿ *lie-MOW-nee-uh* ? -- from Persian *limuna* or Arabic *limoin* >>>> *ass-id-ISS-ee-muh* -- from Latin *acidus* (very sour) >>>> ... Dave's >>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf-XnKALJLi4ZvWhItDcjW2mcyZrg> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Kavit (Hindi: >>>> कावित)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7087801009%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdVkWPAToYH3I-EhLAZFSVww1yfCw> >>>> >>>> Apr 14, 2012 ... at Sagar Upvan, Mumbai >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *commonly known as*: curd fruit, elephant apple, monkey fruit, wood >>>> apple • *Arabic*: tuffâhh el fîl • *Bengali*: কপিত্থ kapittha, কয়েতবেল >>>> kayetabela • *Gujarati*: કોઠા kotha, કોઠી kothi • *Hindi*: दधिफल >>>> dadhiphal, दन्तसठ dantasath, कैथ or कैथा kaith, कपित्थ kapitth, कठबेल >>>> katabel, कावित kavit, मन्मथ manamath, पुष्पफल pushpaphal • *Kannada*: >>>> ಬೇಲದ ಹಣ್ಣಿನ ಮರ baelada hannina mara, ಬೇಲದ ಮರ baelada mara, ದಧಿಫಲ >>>> dadhiphala, ದಮ್ತಸಟ damtasata, ಕಪಿಠಾ kapithha, ಮನಮಥ ಮರ manmatha mara, >>>> ನಾಯಿಬೆಲ nayibel • *Malayalam*: നായ് വേലം naay veelam, വിളങ്കായ് >>>> vilankaay • *Marathi*: कपित्थ kapith, कवंठ kavant, कवंठी kavanti, कवठ >>>> kavat • *Oriya*: koyito • *Prakrit*: कइत्थं kaittham, कइत्थो kaittho • >>>> *Sanskrit*: दधिफल dadhiphala, दधित्थ dadhittha, दन्तशठ danthashatha, >>>> कपित्थं kapithama, कपित्य kapitya, कपित्यं kapityama, पुष्पफल pushpaphala >>>> • >>>> *Tamil*: கபித்தம் kapittam, கவித்தம் kavittam, தந்தசடம் tantacatam, >>>> விளா vila, விளா மரம் vilamaram, விளாம்பழம் vilampazam • *Telugu*: >>>> కపిత్థము kapitthhamu, వెలగ velaga, వెలగపండు velagapandu >>>> >>>> *Native to*: India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Thailand >>>> >>>> *References*: Flowers of >>>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.in%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWood%2520Apple.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcwKUeC8I9Qka08D1bLE0s8g2dFgQ>• >>>> ENVIS >>>> - >>>> FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DLimonia%2Bacidissima%26gesp%3D1322%257CLimonia%2Bacidissima%2BL.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfBATQvNvPbzvktAi0btBfnYzgsEw>• >>>> >>>> Wikipedia<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLimonia_%2528plant%2529&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfmrmAd4p6TyDTcfwrM6XSdXtjdkA>• >>>> Purdue >>>> University<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hort.purdue.edu%2Fnewcrop%2Fmorton%2Fwood-apple.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzebCHo2R4qUkTD-vJFHUycK-iKdrw>• >>>> World >>>> Agroforestry >>>> Centre<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldagroforestrycentre.org%2Fsea%2FProducts%2FAFDbases%2Faf%2Fasp%2FSpeciesInfo.asp%3FSpID%3D18044&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZs9WS19YgZ4B38kDlCNvh3p8vfQ>• >>>> >>>> M.M.P.N.D.<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au%2FSorting%2FCitrus_3.html%23Feronia&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfmnyfWObRtw1o3wntwolQeDnaVNQ>• >>>> Digital >>>> Dictionaries of South >>>> Asia<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdsal.uchicago.edu%2Fdictionaries%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf6uenyoQ09XSR__kqQB9oTVQ4dNQ> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *more views*: >>>> >>>> - Apr 14, 2012 ... at Sagar Upvan, Mumbai >>>> [image: Kapittam (Tamil: >>>> கபித்தம்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7087799491%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcbVWzcbmlEOaMp4cbhYJJ_MoMZUQ> >>>> [image: >>>> Limonia >>>> acidissima]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6941726106%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzebip0mKF-Fh7GmRv_IHoBECNaJLA> >>>> [image: >>>> Vilankaay (Malayalam: >>>> വിളങ്കായ്)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7087800481%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf0OXHwsN3Phbtz95dOt4fH0R8wcQ> >>>> >>>> - Feb 17, 2008 ... along Mahabaleshwar - Wai Road, Maharashtra >>>> [image: Kawath (Marathi: >>>> कवठ)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F2276564568%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdEgNvuLa_Ygl6XjUqBQhu95vt1CA> >>>> [image: >>>> Kapithama (Sanskrit: >>>> कपित्थं)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F2276565334%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEze7VCnwU0gQnCYME74p-yEs8i98XQ> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> > > > -- > Usha di > =========== > >
