That's fine Mic... wrote to you in another thread re mic ... Usha di ---- On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:43 AM, OZmic <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is a nice idea Usha di. I had a similar brainstorm about these > concepts with a Catalan colleague last year. For any given plant there can > be also leaf, flower, root (especially in medicinal plants), derived > extracts, products etc. I am thinking here of oil, essential oil, wax etc. > In a presentation such as mine or Dinesh's in his well known listings it > could add many extra lines. As far as databases are concerned it would > probably mean extra fields. So for practical reasons I cannot really adopt > this presentation. I find it hard enough keeping tracks of all the (masc.) > (fem.) (sing.) (plur.) (prod.) etc. These listings are always a compromise > unfortunately. We can only do the best we can. > I will always warmly welcome your comments regarding gender, number, > flower, leaf, tree, fruit etc. in Gujarati and any other language. > As far as referencing I meant only how to acknowledge efloraofindia. Is > there a standard citation or do we adapt to the subject matter? > Thanks for these probing points > > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:24:21 PM UTC+10, Ushadi wrote: >> >> Dear Michel/Mic/ Dr Porcher ( I have not the foggiest what I should use, >> so bear with me) >> >> Quote:. Do you approve Usha di?: .... >> Ans: ya, but I would separate the mother tree from the listing of the >> fruits... and that rule should apply to all trees and their progeny.. I >> think... no matter what others or books do, lets start a logical listing >> ourselves... be a trend setter ourselves if others before us / you have >> not done it... >> You are a trend setter with your MMPND work ... so I think this should be >> easy for your thinking process to accept... >> >> GUJARATI : *Fruits*: કોઠા (Kotha) Kottha (fruit-plur.), કોઠુ* *(Kothu) >> Kotthu (fruit-sing.), કોહું Kohu (reg.dial). >> >> Tree: કોઠી (kothi) Kotthi (tree-fem.): tree that bears the fruits. >> >> And if MMPND must have refs pl let me know I'll type up the dictionary >> names and books citations... when time permits >> >> and cheers to you too... >> >> Usha di >> == >> >> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:06 AM, ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ok Mic is that a dr mr or dr ms porcher? >>> and I count several languages as my native languages.... they were >>> spoken at home and schools and schools that taught me the hobbies... >>> >>> Usha di >>> ==== >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:42 AM, OZmic <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Terribly sorry, another glitch in the computer program. >>>> Based on the educated advice of Usha di (a native speaker I am >>>> guessing) I propose the following entry for Gujarati names of Limonia >>>> acidissima L. in all databases. >>>> GUJARATI : કોઠા (Kotha) Khotta (fruit-plur.), કોઠી (kothi) Kotthi >>>> (tree-fem.), કોઠુ* *(Kothu) Kotthu (fruit-sing.), કોહું Kohu >>>> (reg.dial). >>>> It includes all the information received so far. Job well done, thanks >>>> to all involved. >>>> Could we have a suggestion for the best way to cite this in outside >>>> publications? I am keen to include this entry into the MMPND and I like to >>>> give credit when credit is due. >>>> Please Usha di call me Mic or Michel or make up a cute Gujarati >>>> equivalent. >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 5:40:16 AM UTC+10, Dinesh Valke wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Limonia acidissima * L. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - ¿ *lie-MOW-nee-uh* ? -- from Persian *limuna* or Arabic *limoin* >>>>> *ass-id-ISS-ee-muh* -- from Latin *acidus* (very sour) >>>>> ... Dave's >>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf-XnKALJLi4ZvWhItDcjW2mcyZrg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Kavit (Hindi: >>>>> कावित)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7087801009%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdVkWPAToYH3I-EhLAZFSVww1yfCw> >>>>> Apr 14, 2012 ... at Sagar Upvan, Mumbai >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *commonly known as*: curd fruit, elephant apple, monkey fruit, wood >>>>> apple • *Arabic*: tuffâhh el fîl • *Bengali*: কপিত্থ kapittha, >>>>> কয়েতবেল kayetabela • *Gujarati*: કોઠા kotha, કોઠી kothi • *Hindi*: >>>>> दधिफल dadhiphal, दन्तसठ dantasath, कैथ or कैथा kaith, कपित्थ kapitth, >>>>> कठबेल >>>>> katabel, कावित kavit, मन्मथ manamath, पुष्पफल pushpaphal • *Kannada*: >>>>> ಬೇಲದ ಹಣ್ಣಿನ ಮರ baelada hannina mara, ಬೇಲದ ಮರ baelada mara, ದಧಿಫಲ >>>>> dadhiphala, ದಮ್ತಸಟ damtasata, ಕಪಿಠಾ kapithha, ಮನಮಥ ಮರ manmatha mara, >>>>> ನಾಯಿಬೆಲ nayibel • *Malayalam*: നായ് വേലം naay veelam, വിളങ്കായ് >>>>> vilankaay • *Marathi*: कपित्थ kapith, कवंठ kavant, कवंठी kavanti, कवठ >>>>> kavat • *Oriya*: koyito • *Prakrit*: कइत्थं kaittham, कइत्थो kaittho >>>>> • *Sanskrit*: दधिफल dadhiphala, दधित्थ dadhittha, दन्तशठ >>>>> danthashatha, कपित्थं kapithama, कपित्य kapitya, कपित्यं kapityama, >>>>> पुष्पफल >>>>> pushpaphala • *Tamil*: கபித்தம் kapittam, கவித்தம் kavittam, தந்தசடம் >>>>> tantacatam, விளா vila, விளா மரம் vilamaram, விளாம்பழம் vilampazam • * >>>>> Telugu*: కపిత్థము kapitthhamu, వెలగ velaga, వెలగపండు velagapandu >>>>> >>>>> *Native to*: India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Thailand >>>>> >>>>> *References*: Flowers of >>>>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.in%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWood%2520Apple.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcwKUeC8I9Qka08D1bLE0s8g2dFgQ>• >>>>> ENVIS >>>>> - >>>>> FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DLimonia%2Bacidissima%26gesp%3D1322%257CLimonia%2Bacidissima%2BL.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfBATQvNvPbzvktAi0btBfnYzgsEw>• >>>>> Wikipedia<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLimonia_%2528plant%2529&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfmrmAd4p6TyDTcfwrM6XSdXtjdkA>• >>>>> Purdue >>>>> University<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hort.purdue.edu%2Fnewcrop%2Fmorton%2Fwood-apple.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzebCHo2R4qUkTD-vJFHUycK-iKdrw>• >>>>> World >>>>> Agroforestry >>>>> Centre<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldagroforestrycentre.org%2Fsea%2FProducts%2FAFDbases%2Faf%2Fasp%2FSpeciesInfo.asp%3FSpID%3D18044&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZs9WS19YgZ4B38kDlCNvh3p8vfQ>• >>>>> M.M.P.N.D.<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au%2FSorting%2FCitrus_3.html%23Feronia&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfmnyfWObRtw1o3wntwolQeDnaVNQ>• >>>>> Digital >>>>> Dictionaries of South >>>>> Asia<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdsal.uchicago.edu%2Fdictionaries%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf6uenyoQ09XSR__kqQB9oTVQ4dNQ> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *more views*: >>>>> >>>>> - Apr 14, 2012 ... at Sagar Upvan, Mumbai >>>>> [image: Kapittam (Tamil: >>>>> கபித்தம்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7087799491%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcbVWzcbmlEOaMp4cbhYJJ_MoMZUQ> >>>>> [image: >>>>> Limonia >>>>> acidissima]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6941726106%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzebip0mKF-Fh7GmRv_IHoBECNaJLA> >>>>> [image: >>>>> Vilankaay (Malayalam: >>>>> വിളങ്കായ്)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7087800481%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf0OXHwsN3Phbtz95dOt4fH0R8wcQ> >>>>> - Feb 17, 2008 ... along Mahabaleshwar - Wai Road, Maharashtra >>>>> [image: Kawath (Marathi: >>>>> कवठ)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F2276564568%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdEgNvuLa_Ygl6XjUqBQhu95vt1CA> >>>>> [image: >>>>> Kapithama (Sanskrit: >>>>> कपित्थं)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F2276565334%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEze7VCnwU0gQnCYME74p-yEs8i98XQ> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Usha di >>> =========== >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> -- Usha di ===========
